Herb Doctors: Nitric Oxide, Nitrates, Nitrites, And Fluoride

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00:00:00 > ANDREW MURRAY: Thank you once again. Welcome to

00:01:12 > Ask Your Herb Doctor. My name is Andrew Murray. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: My name is Sarah Johannesen Murray. ANDREW MURRAY: For those of you who perhaps have never listened to the shows, which run every third Friday of the month from 7 till 8 PM, we’re both licensed medical herbalists who trained in England and graduated there with a degree in herbal medicine. We run a clinic in Garberville where we consult with clients about a wide range of conditions and recommend herb supplements and nutritional counseling. So you’re listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMUD, Garberville 91.1 FM. And from 7:30 until the end of the show at 8 o’ clock, you’re invited to call in with any questions either related or unrelated to This month’s continuing subject are nitric oxide, nitrate, nitrates, and fluorides, all included into the food chain and decreasing fertility. Quite a few controversial subjects. And I guess before I get into the topic here with the first kick off, which is fluoride and what’s been revealed about fluoride,

00:02:14 > I’d like to very much welcome Dr. Peat for giving his time so freely to join us on these shows. Dr. Peat, are you there? RAY PEAT: Yes, hi. ANDREW MURRAY: Thanks so much for joining us. Just want to, as always, give you the opportunity to outline your academic and professional background for those people who perhaps have never listened to you. When they hear you talk, I think it’s unequivocal that you sound very well informed and the population should always be as informed as possible in order to make wise decisions. So if you would first, just start up by letting people know your academic and professional background, then we’ll get into tonight’s topic. RAY PEAT: Okay. 1968 to 1972, I've studied biology, physiology, and biochemistry especially, at the University of Oregon for a PHD. Before that, i was in linguistics, literature, English and such. And since then,

00:03:16 > I've been writing newsletters and doing consulting. ANDREW MURRAY: Your background is very much focused on the energetic state of the organism, I know you refer to humans and us as organisms which we are just like – I'm not saying we’re like yeasts and molds and slimes, but we’re all living organisms. And in terms of the energy production of an organism and its ability to thrive and survive, that is a very important component. And I know that your – a lot of your research work with hormones related to fertility, not just fertility, but productivity and energy metabolism, mitochondrial energy production have been key in understanding the mechanism by which disease happens. And you have some very groundbreaking thoughts and those thoughts towards disease processes that most other people haven’t really made the link, so really appreciate your genuine

00:04:18 > passion for your subject. RAY PEAT: I had been intending to study brain biology when i went to university, and the dogmatism in the nerve biology department made me look elsewhere . And I've found that reproductive physiology was an open, more scientific area. So, after I've finished my thesis on the aging the reproductive system, i then went back and applied that information to how the brain works, and spent a year or two writing my book “Mind and tissue”. ANDREW MURRAY: Did you find the subject of reproductive physiology as dogmatic as the other branches of science ? RAY PEAT: No, not at all. My thesis adviser, Arnold Soderwall had been one of the pioneers in

00:05:20 > exploring the effects of vitamin E as a fertility nutrient. And, 1940’s, 1930’s and1940's it was vitamin E was recognized as a protection against polyunsaturated fats and against estrogen. Both of those were things that interfere with oxidative energy production. So, vitamin E was preserving the ability of tissues to oxidize properly. And it has come to be known as an antioxidant, but really it should be thought as a normalizer of good oxidative metabolism. ANDREW MURRAY: Well, that brings me to another point. In terms of being informed, most people would think... When hearing the word “estrogen” and I think this

00:06:22 > me, up until about 8 years ago, having been dogmatically brainwashed by the industry providing the education in herbal medicine, very aligned to regular western medicine in terms of the physiology, the biochemistry, the pathology and the differential diagnoses, etc...it’s very science-based, regular mainstream medical education. And it wasn’t until i had left, maybe ten years later, after having read different reports, and looking very alternatively at my profession to look at a holistic way of trying to approach disease that I've discovered the lies, basically, that were fed through the system, from the top down, from the professors to the students. Again, I think, without exception, wherever there’s prestige, there’s a great degree of brainwashing, going along with the

00:07:24 > money from industry, that’s paying off people to keep things quiet, or to produce bogus scientific research to support potentially dangerous products on their way to the market. Or that’s paying off the FDA to allow things to get cleared. All the way through government, wherever there’s money, there’s a huge amount of corruption that can come through. And most people aren’t immune to it. I wanted to give a couple of statements, a couple of statements that have been mentioned here just to help people understand this part of show is much more about what we think we know, we really don’t know. And everybody has has access to the Internet now pretty much, probably more so than ever before and cell phones etc. that are on the internet, make it all possible if you don’t have a desktop or a laptop computer or even. But the internet

00:08:26 > is a huge resource for people to stand up and say things you’re not going to hear on Fox, CNN, or regular mainstream media. Regular mainstream media is dying a very slow death here. And while you do find on the internet a lot of cranky things, it represents an amazing platform for people to spread, research and truth and for everybody to find it. So I think there’s always a self-evident truth that, for most people, just rings true rather than someone trying to sell you something or just spin an idea there for their own gain or their own profit. The 2 quotes “ The people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives” number one. And then Thomas Jefferson’s famous “A nation of sheeps will be

00:09:28 > ruled by wolves “ Just to say that we have some very important constitutional rights layed down. 1776, I’m I was born in Britain. I’m a US citizen now and proud to be in the US and quite happy to be away from England and its tyrannical control. And this country has a big history of having a lot of freedom. So that’s something that we really need to preserve. Let’s get into the we think are good for us that the government, our elected officials who should be doing what we tell them to do, not what goes on now. The things that get passed in government that get bought out, lobbyists controlling people in the Senate, etc, and allowing industry to do what they do. But the Internet reveals a lot of the truth about what’s being done and the science behind the truth. So people that have any

00:10:30 > education at all, even uneducated people, can see that it’s not made up. And one of those things, I guess the start of it – I really want to just get into fluoride. It was not actually the main topic of tonight’s discussion with you, Dr. Peat, because I know you have plenty of research that you’re doing and the newsletter that your writing here on nitric oxide, and nitric oxide being one of those things that I think most people would just believe is good for you. And I picked up on what you said originally about estrogen and doing what you were doing with estrogen, showing how damaging it is and most people, especially women, they just think estrogen is just completely normal and is something that they have and it’s not harmful, it’s not inflammatory, it’s not carcinogenic. And a lot of this comes through the medical education and the doctors and what they’ll tell you, what they have been told by the people that are doing the bogus science and all the profiteering, I’d call it, for big industry.

00:11:32 > So a lot of what we hear, we cannot just believe it. And I would encourage anybody and everybody just to research what I'm saying. I might just be telling you a complete lie. I know that you can find this out for yourself. So getting on to fluoride then, I just want you to say that – I have a little paragraph here. I just had prepared for the subject just to show you how, gosh, how evil it all is really because it’s kind of unbelievable. I think the biggest deception is that the largest lie you can produce is probably the most easy to hide in plain sight because it’s just so stupendously unbelievable that most people just don’t even see it. It’s hidden in plain sight. So the fluoride they put in our drinking water is not even a pharmaceutical additive – pharmaceutical grade additive. That’s the first thing that you should now. It’s industrial waste byproduct. And making money from waste products, selling them as additives or food is big business. And with increasing

00:12:34 > aluminum production in the beginning of the 20th century, it became necessary to find somewhere to put the fluoride, which was a waste by-product of the industry. And manufacturers at this point could no longer get away with just dumping it into rivers or landfills because it was poisoning crops and making livestock sick. Now, Francis Frary, Chief Scientist for Alcoa, had an idea. He commissioned GeraldCox at the Mellon Institute. Have you ever heard of him? Well. To conduct research regarding the benefits of adding fluoride to the water supply. Now, the Mellon Institute was frequently hired by big business to produce research that supported their industries. And for several decades, they produced research showing that asbestos was safe and didn’t cause cancer. Another proponent of the safety of fluoride at the time was scientist, Harold Hodge, who was later exposed as part of the human radiation experiment where test subjects were injected with plutonium and uranium in 1945 through 1946. And this was documented by the Pulitzer Prize winning reporter, Eileen Welsome in the

00:13:36 > Plutonium files. And you can buy this on Amazon, you can watch it on YouTube. So the Plutonium files just basically outlines everything that was done in these hideous experiments on the human radiation project done by – overseen by Harold Hodge. Now, Hodge was also the Chief Toxicologist of the Manhattan Project. And fluoride was a key component in the production of the atom bomb. And his studies were conducted with a bias toward proving fluoride safe, which would protect the government and the industry from lawsuits. Now, the phony research science done to support water fluoridation was underwritten by these massive companies – the Aluminum Company of America, ALCOA; the Aluminum Company of Canada; the American Petroleum Institute; DuPont, Kaiser Aluminum, Reynolds Steel, US Steel, and The National Institute of Dental Research. Surprise, surprise. Now, PR master, Edward Bernays, also known as the father

00:14:38 > of spin, created the PR campaign to sell fluoride to the nation as an additive recommended by a doctor and dentist for healthy teeth. And he was a pioneer of modern propaganda and used the theories of mass psychology and persuasion to suit the needs of corporate and political organizations. And the main fluoride chemical added to water today is hydrofluorosilicic acid. It is an industrial by-product from the phosphate fertilizer industry. Now, fluoride given to rats has been proven to cause bone cancer, liver cancer, and a host of other physical ailments. So, Dr. Peat , I know I hadn’t particularly asked you about fluoride. I know we’ll talk into some of the other subjects here that I think we are prepared for. But fluoride, what’s your take on fluoride? SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Is there any logic to – anything they are saying about fluoride and teeth? RAY PEAT: I’ve read a few studies in the 1970’s in which they had

00:15:40 > compared villages that had high fluoride or zero fluoride added to the water. The teethes were healthier in the village without the fluoride. And some of the early studies were done in Montana towns, for the water was naturally mineralized, and they were getting trace minerals naturally in their water. And they didn’t control for that; they likened the fluoride content for the good dental health. But it was probably the magnesium, molybdenum, other trace minerals in the water that helped the teethes mature properly. And because i was interested, i went to hear John Yiamouyiannis talk;

00:16:42 > and he was very impressive. He was supposedly debating a dentist who claimed to be an expert in water fluoridation. And he finally got the understood myth that his preparation consisted of reading a review article. And Yiamouyiannis had worked for the abstracting service (i think it was the biological abstracts) and was familiar with 15.000 studies on fluoride; and he could make any opponent look ridiculous. And so, they avoided debating him; they just said he was a quack and so shouldn’t be given any serious hearing. Yiamouyiannis and Dean Burk did a study in Los Angeles and found that the fluoridation... before and after fluoride

00:17:44 > was added, the cancer incidence increased. And Dean Burk was really one of the best cancer researchers in the world: he was a college of Otto Warburg. So, Dean Burke’s reputation was damaged by getting involved with fluoride. ANDREW MURRAY: It’s unfortunate in the geopolitical landscape that people that align themselves with the truth are often attacked and discredited and people that have genuine humanitarian ethics when they go into science and research find things that disturb them, and quite rightly, they want to blow the whistle on it, and then obviously they suffer the tirade of abuse or discrediting that goes on to make them seem like idiots or quacks, as you’ve mentioned. And like I said, it’s so

00:18:46 > difficult, folks. Sometimes the truth is in plain sight, but it’s the most difficult to see. It’s like the phrase, “can’t see the wood for the trees”. But anyway, like I said, the Internet is a great resource to find out lots of stuff that you are not going to find on mainstream news. And thank goodness, mainstream media is slowly dying a death. Dr. Peat, I wanted to ask you about something that I know you’re fairly recently involved with in terms of the – and I’m not just talking about the additives to food, but it is an additive. Again, I think this is important that people recognize and wake up to what is allowed. If we talk about a government that allows certain things, then, obviously, the corruption issue comes in, where the money is a big part of making the decision to allow it, and phony science that seems to support its use or its safety being allowed when that actually isn’t the truth

00:19:48 > and there is no real scientific proof that it can stand and actually be a safe product. Let’s just talk about nitrates and nitrites. Go ahead. RAY PEAT: Around 1970, there were studies of these nitrosamines compounds, mostly involving proline or other amino acids reacting with nitrates in the stomach. And it came out they were very powerful carcinogens, and that they were formed in cigarette smoke. They were one of the majors carcinogens in cigarette smoke. But the Farm industry was forcing greater production by using fertilizers, high nitrate fertilizers. And spinach produced with this

00:20:50 > fertilizer will grow very quickly, produce a lot of mass. But forcing it with a high nitrate causes it to contain several times as much nitrate as normal vegetables would. And the cooking process alone forms the nitrosamines. so well cooked spinach. ANDREW MURRAY: Even when you’re boiling a vegetable in water, rather than in high heat, they typically associate nitrosamines with like bacon, or... RAY PEAT: Yeah. But even vegetables, which have a reputation for being associated with a low cancer incidence because the many good nutrients they contain, it happens if you choose the vegetables that are industrially over-fertilized with

00:21:52 > nitrate, and then cook them thoroughly, so that they are digestible, you’re producing the same sort of carcinogens than tobacco smoke contains. ANDREW MURRAY: Now, presumably – I don’t mean to butt in here, Dr. Peat, but presumably nitrate fertilizers, they are – I wonder if they are… SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Yeah, but they could be chicken manure that… ANDREW MURRAY: …allowed organically. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: No. No, I don’t think nitrate fertilizers are allowed organically. But maybe the chicken manure – I don’t know, Michael, if he has something to say here, maybe they are over -fertilizing even with chicken manure in organic farming. RAY PEAT: Yes. The nitrogen could be in the form of ammonia; that could be the safe way for the plants to get their nitrogen, and there wouldn’t be any problems then. But the more they are forced with an excess of nitrogen, they simply absorb the nitrates or nitrites in a crude chemical form

00:22:54 > that isn’t doing the plant any good. But when you eat it, then it circulates in your body and is then exposed to many layers of enzymatic and non-enzymatic interactions of free radicals as well as reductases will convert nitrates to nitrites, and nitrites to nitric oxide. Those increase according to your level of stress. So when you’re eating food that either contains it as preservatives, like in processed meats, or the industrialized produced vegetables, you’re creating the conditions for a bad reaction to stress. SARAH JHONNESON MURRAY: And then, if you’re stressed out when you’re eating,

00:23:56 > then that makes it even worse ? RAY PEAT: I would suppose so digestion worse, right ? With old age, the conversion of ordinary protein arginin to nitric oxide is accelerated by the various things that interfere with your cellular oxidation. And then if you add environmental nitrates or nitrites to that, you’re making your ability to resist stress weaker and weaker, because these things accumulate and become a more abundant source of nitric oxide, which then feeds back and blocks the ability to use oxygen. SARAH JHONNESON MURRAY: What about natural derived nitrites or nitrates and nitrites, like in celery ?

00:24:58 > RAY PEAT: I think they are just as bad. ANDREW MURRAY: Because the bottom line is they still produce nitrates. So, can aging accelerate the process of nitric oxide or nitrate formation in the elderly ? RAY PEAT: Yes. The argument that the industry’s pushing is that brain circulation supposedly goes with intelligence; it does in young people. And so, if you increase the diameter of the blood vessels by increasing your nitric oxide, you’re going to reverse the process of brain aging, by getting more blood circulating. It does help the brain to function to circulate more blood through it, but the problem is nitric oxide at the same time is blocking the ability to use the oxygen.

00:26:00 > So, it’s imitating a shock state. In cirrhosis, for example, you get an exaggerated circulation of blood, which isn’t being used, because things are inhibiting the oxidative enzymes. And in the spontaneously age accelerated rats and mice (they’re genetic mutants that age 3 or 4 times the normal rate), they’re very old when they are 6 months old; these animals happen to produce tremendous amounts of nitric oxide. So the people arguing for the sale of nitric oxide products say: “Oh, that’s because they’re defective, and they need more nitric oxide.”. So they say that the high concentration of nitric oxide in the prematurely

00:27:02 > senile animals is there protectively. But when you intervene, for example, exposing to overdoses of UV light, or ionizing radiation, you create changes similar to those of aging, including gene mutations and so on. And you can extract the liquid from an organism that has been irradiated; and that liquid will produce the sale deteriorations, mutations and so on. ANDREW MURRAY: The bystander effect. RAY PEAT: Yes. And the bystander effect is largely the result of over- production of nitric oxide. ANDREW MURRAY: Well. Okay. You’re listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMUD Garberville 91.1 FM. And from now until the end of the show at 8 o’ clock, callers are either

00:28:04 > welcomed and/or encouraged to call in with any questions related to this month’s subject of what the government don’t tell us about what they tell us is good and/or the wider subject of nitric oxide and some of the chemicals we are talking about, fluoride here, and then nitrates and nitrites which are common preservatives for meat. The number if you live in the area is 923-3911; or if you’re outside the area, there is an 800 number, which is 1-800 -KMUD-RAD. That’s 1-800- 568-3723 And we definitely welcome all those people that call from all over the States, so really appreciate their calls. I did actually get a – just by the by here, Dr. Peat. I got an email from a listener in Germany today who actually asked me a question, wants to know what your opinion on cannabis was? So without getting geopolitical because I know this is a kind of a seat of cannabis and

00:29:06 > its useful alternative disease and cancers and other things, but he was saying that he was kind of frightened by the – well, he did recognize both himself and in the wider perspective of cannabis’ negative effects, he wanted to know what your understanding of cannabis was. And I know that you come from a purely physiological and fact-based perspective, so what are your views on cannabis? RAY PEAT: When i was ten years old, a doctor prescribed it for migraines. And i took a glass of the tea from cannabis leaves everyday for about a month, big egg full of cannabis leaves and i didn’t notice really any effect. So, i was never impressed by the claims for it’s great sedative or pain killing effects, or whatever. But i know it does have it’s

00:30:08 > useful sedative effects. ANDREW MURRAY: What do you think of the potential estrogenic effects of it, given it’s in the same family as hops (only 2 members exist in the Cannabaceae: cannabis sativa and humulus lupulus (hops)) ? I know in England, in the summertime, when, typically, the women would be picking the hops in the hops fields for the beer industry, most of these women would skip their menstrual cycle because it was such a disrupter of the menstrual cycle because of it’s estrogenic activity. How about that? What do you know about that? RAY PEAT: It does have an anti-testosterone effect. I think the worst effect of, when it’s smoked ( because the smoke itself has an estrogen action). ANDREW MURRAY: In that perspective, since i know you talk a lot about estrogen being a negative very pro-inflammatory hormone, that’s correct ?

00:31:12 > RAY PEAT: Yes. In general. It activates the immune system in a short term antibody-producing way that is in certain situations useful, but it’s why women have a very high incidence of auto-immune disorders, because it impairs the energy resources at the same time that it’s making these short term emergency changes in the immune system. ANDREW MURRAY: Right. Okay, so let’s move on with – oh, do we have a caller? Yeah, okay. We have a caller. Let’s take the first caller. Caller, where are you from? SOUND ENGINEER: Well, I also – I’m from Redway. And I found a little information I couldn’t find. I do believe that all of the synthetic fertilizers are not organically listed and I drove through a whole bunch of things and nothing is saying that it is – although [inaudible] highest nitrogen content I found of the things they’re advertising in this quick search has been

00:32:14 > about 12%. ANDREW MURRAY: That’s pretty high. SOUND ENGINEER: And it’s a little bit higher. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: That’s higher than chicken manure, isn’t it? SOUND ENGINEER: Yeah. That was the feather meal. And I would wonder about human- based or cow-based urines too. I know in Sweden, they’re collecting urine. I think chemically nitrogen is nitrogen. If you have too much, it’s bad for the soil and bad for everything, no matter where it’s from. But I’m not the source on that .And we do have a caller. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Thank you, Michael. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay, caller. Welcome to the show. Where are you from? CALLER: This is David from Missouri. ANDREW MURRAY: Hi, David. CALLER: How are you all doing? ANDREW MURRAY: We’re doing good. What is your question? CALLER: So I am glad to talking about the government and I just – I want to comment on the fact that there always seems to be a lot of confusion out in the world, if you listen to any of the debates about different political systems, like communism, socialism, democracy or even some of the terms capitalization. And it’s

00:33:16 > just amazing that really our government, it’s such a nebulous term. We don’t even know what our government is. It appears that it’s like a corporate structure that’s being run by corporations. It’s just being used as a shell to hide under. And we’re always baffled by the fact that things like fluoride are being put into our water and it’s an industrial waste. They use these different methods to conceal things they are doing. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. CALLER: But then at the same time, it appears that there’s something a little bit more evil going on at the same time, which, of course, once we start going in that direction, then we’re conspiracy theorists. But just in general, if you look at the government, with everything to do with our food supply, with the military, the banking industry, what they get away with… ANDREW MURRAY: And that beggars belief. CALLER: Corporations, that is,supposedly when we have

00:34:18 > this government to protect us, it’s obvious that it’s all just a big illusion, a scam. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. CALLER: I keep thinking about Dr. Peat really has awakened me to this idea of learned helplessness. In a way, that’s what the program is all the time. It’s trying to get as much of the population to learn helplessness. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. To not fight back. CALLER: You are aware of all these different things going on and you talk to – there’s so many people that are just so asleep and have no idea these things are going on. And when you talk about them, they think you’re crazy. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. CALLER: So I’m glad you’re talking about it. It seems like there should be a lot more attention devoted to it because all these different things that we’re struggling with, why this is being done, why is this going on, it appears to be a part of a larger agenda that I am not sure exactly what the end game is there, but it is not good.

00:35:20 > SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: There we mention eugenics or… ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: You could get a lot deeper into this whole political conversation. CALLER: Yeah. I’v heard you say, Andrew. I don’t want to get political here. And I understand why you don’t want to do that because people condemn you if you start going down these paths. But I’m telling you, we need to start going down these paths. People need to start waking up to what’s going on. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. Well, that’s… CALLER: It’s been going on a long time, but now it seems like it’s really accelerated. And things are… ANDREW MURRAY: Well, I think the Internet is largely responsible for making this kind of information possible and radio stations like KMUD that are not controlled to a large extent and free speech is still allowed and that’s why we have Dr. Peat on the show because he is very grounded in science. CALLER: Yeah, I know. I appreciate this show so much. It’s just unbelievable. Again, the idea that corporations and how they have taken everything over, they have such incredible power,if you think about the banking industry itself, these corporations are just… ANDREW MURRAY: Evil. CALLER: I mean, they are so

00:36:22 > in control and people have no idea. ANDREW MURRAY: They’re so evil. CALLER: Just like corporate media, I mean it is a brainwashing program. An extreme brainwashing program. ANDREW MURRAY: And it doesn’t want you arguing or fight back. They want you just sitting there, taking it... CALLER: Learned helplessness. ANDREW MURRAY: …lying down. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Well, Dr. Peat. CALLER: It wants to have us all just helpless to realize that we can’t do anything and they are going do a good job. ANDREW MURRAY: We can do something. That’s the whole point. We do have… CALLER: I believe it too. ANDREW MURRAY: We do have constitutional rights here. So, folks, exercise your rights, or else they’re going to be lost. CALLER: I think we all just need to speak up more to people and talk more to people about – check this out. This is not true. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. CALLER: Need to get to the truth. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. It’sa great nation we live in, folks. God bless, America. It’s an awesome country. And the rest of world looks to it to lead the way. And if we don’t wake up here soon, it’s not going to be around much longer. So, anyway, hopefully, people listening to this show recognize

00:37:24 > the truth has been told and they can go check it out for themselves. I think we’ve talked about so many subjects that are controversial and there is science behind it to show that the truth is there, so that’s pretty much our thrust. Let’s get into the rest of tonight’s show here. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: I did just want to ask Dr. Peat, since you’ve been around a little bit longer than we have, what do you see – can I ask you for your comments on the state of our country? RAY PEAT: I talked to old people to find out what it was like, 60 years before my time. My impression is really that it has been declining rapidly for about 150 years, now. And in the 60 years that I've been studying and talking to people about politics and

00:38:26 > such, the problems that i saw in the late 1940’s and 1950’s... i was one of the few people talking about it at that time. But now, there are probably millions of people using the internet to see the same drift that began...which basically is corporate control and using education and the medias to make the people think that things are progressing; the stories that lifespan has been lengthened; the cancer war has been won, ...They simply are creating fraudulent statistics. The Roman The adult lifespan in ancient Rome was about the same

00:39:28 > as 20th century America. ANDREW MURRAY: And we supposedly have all this technology to help us...the science to do miraculous things. And yet, we really haven't advanced much at all; the whole war on cancer is a complete joke. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Okay. Well, thank you for that, Dr. Peat. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay. So I just wanted to open up another subject here of another food. And hopefully, people will wake up to the truth about what’s going on here. An Austrian study finding that eating GE corn may reduce fertility So studies sponsored by the Austrian Ministry of Agriculture and Health found that mice fed a genetically engineered corn developed by the Monsanto Company produced few offspring than those fed conventional corn. The study was led by Dr. Jürgen Zentek, professor of veterinary medicine at the University of Vienna. For 20 weeks, Dr. Zentek and his team fed mice diets consisting of either 33% genetically engineered corn or 33% of a closely related non -genetically engineered variety.

00:40:30 > The diets were otherwise nutritionally equivalent. Mice fed with GE corn diet had fewer litters, fewer total offspring, smaller offspring, and more females with no offspring than mice fed to conventional corn. The effects were particularly pronounced in the third and fourth litters after the mice had consumed the GE corn for a longer period of time. The authors attributed the reduced fertility to the GE corn feed and said it might be related to unintended effects of the genetic modification process. This meticulous study suggests that a popular type of genetically engineered corn may harbor fertility reducing substances, said Bill Freese, science policy analyst at the Center for Food Safety and co-author of a peer-reviewed study on GE crop regulation. It’s no surprise to us that US regulators did not catch this. None of our regulatory agencies require any long-term animal feeding trials before allowing genetically-engineered crops on the market. So, folks, this is just

00:41:32 > another example of big agriculture and big corporate interests lobbying the government, allowing these kind of things to come to pass when I think the self-eviden truth is that is not right. And that there is something potentially very dangerous about this and we need a lot longer to see the effects. So if the litters of mice second, third and fourth generation showed increasing – declining fertility, then just like the obesity epidemic in America in the last 50 years has caught up to 90% of the population, the same thing is probably going to happen with GE foods, as the offspring multiply the defects from generation to generation. Another comment here was that, male corn farm workers who regularly work with Atrazine are found to have lower sperm counts, another great chemical to treat your GE corn with. And this is a product made by Zentek [?]. So Atrazine is another broad-spectrum

00:42:34 > herbicide that is used in these corn fields and again been very closely link to a lower sperm counts. RAY PEAT: And it’s estrogenic ANDREW MURRAY: And it’s estrogenic. There you go. So another reason for estrogen to be taken cautiously. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: And if your corn is not organic, you can bet it’s GMO. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay. So I think just to continue, I’d heard it mentioned earlier on – let’s just let people know again. You’re listening to Ask Your Herb Doctor on KMUD Garberville 91.1 FM. From now until the end of the show at 8 o’clock, you’re invited to call in with questions related or unrelated to this month’s subject of food and the additives and nitric oxide. The number if you live in the area is 923-3911. The area code for this area is 707-923 -3911.Or if you want 800 number, toll free, that is 1-800 -568-3723. So, Dr. Peat, I know that you’d talked about

00:43:36 > potassium nitrate, being a – I believe it was another sperm count reducer. RAY PEAT: Yes. There was an experiment giving it to full grown bulls. And then they analyzed their testicles and found that immediately, with a moderate dose, their testosterone production went down. And then their sperm count went down, and it stayed low (the testicles were permanently damaged after they stopped giving them the doses of it). ANDREW MURRAY: Do you know if this product, potassium nitrate, is it directly added to any foods ? RAY PEAT: Well, the nitrite is actually worse, because it’s chemically closer to nitric oxide. ANDREW MURRAY: And it’s all about

00:44:38 > the generation of nitric oxide from these nitrates and nitrites, isn’t it ? That forms nitrosamines and nitric oxides. RAY PEAT: When I was a kid.. ANDREW MURRAY: We have caller, Dr. Peat.. RAY PEAT: Okay.. ANDREW MURRAY: Let’s take this caller Dr. Peat. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: For save that, when you are kid… I want to get that. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay caller, you are on the air. Where you from? CALLER: Hi from, Pepperwood. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay, hi..What’s your question. CALLER: Well actually I really appreciate your guys having Dr. Peat on. I have always wondered a multiple vitamins could, should we be taken them as we age? and even though we try and eat healthy and Especially for woman, extra sources of calcium like a calcium supplement or should we just be eating rich, you know calcium foods. Pick my answer up the air?,

00:45:40 > thank you. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Thank you for your call. ANDREW MURRAY: Thank you for your call. Okay, Dr. Peat, it was your views on multivitamins and calcium. RAY PEAT: There are situations where the amount of multi-vitamins could be useful; if you’re really in a bad situation for getting good food. But the trouble is that they aren’t generally well formulated. And even the best formulations are made with somewhat contaminated chemicals. About 40 years ago I've found that i was having migraine headaches every time i took certains vitamins, especially vit B2, ascorbic acid, and rutin were the most intense for me. And i found that essentially all of the people i talked to with serious allergy

00:46:42 > problems were taking vitamin supplements. And that when they stopped the supplements, they recovered from their chronic allergy symptoms. So, I'm convinced that, unless it’s a very special situation, it’s better to avoid the supplements, and to chose foods for their high nutrient content. ANDREW MURRAY: Did you in a reality do you know what particular vitamins might be more implicated in deficiency than others in terms of what people might want to gravitate what food want to gravitate towards to get these or use a supplement? RAY PEAT: I always recommend eggs and liver as the easiest way to get both trace minerals and vitamins. But you can look at food charts and find things that are not necessarily as good. But you can put together

00:47:44 > a diet with a high content of certain vitamins. Vitamin B2 is one that I've seen lot of serious deficiencies; people with red noses, rosacea, nose bleeds, some mood problems for memory and such. You can’t use oxygen if you’re deficient in Vit B2. But besides the fact that the synthetics are so allergenic for a lot of people, if you take up a very large amount (some of the pills have 50 or 100mg in each tablet), it can reach the level in your skin and your eyes where it sensitizes you to the sunlight. Even blue light will react with riboflavin

00:48:46 > in your eyes and skin, causing free radical change. ANDREW MURRAY: What kind of dosage would you recommend for vitamin B2? RAY PEAT: Fibrotin ANDREW MURRAY: Instead vitamin B2 vitamins are water soluble vitamins not something like you can stored. probably more easily become deficient and very quickly do we have another caller?. The last caller mentioned calcium, I know you’re a big proponent of milk, cheese, dairy products in general. Are there any other sources for a good supply of calcium ? RAY PEAT: Green leaves, if they are well cooked, are a great source of calcium and magnesium. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: And grown organically so they don’t have a great source of nitric acid. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay so let’s get this next caller. Caller, you are on the air and where you from? CALLER: Eureka. ANDREW MURRAY: Hi. Welcome to the show and what’s your question? CALLER: I was wondering about products that specifically say they will boost the nitric oxide? Things like superbeets,

00:49:48 > for example? ANDREW MURRAY: Superbeets. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Like red beets. CALLER: Well, that’s a commercial product that claims to have a highly concentrated effect on your nitric oxide based on extracts from beets. ANDREW MURRAY: It’s something that you don’t want, though. So presumably you think that you need it? CALLER: No, I don’t think. I was kind of wondering based on what you said that it seem like it would be a bad thing directly. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah, absolutely. CALLER: It seems kind of odd to be proclaiming it so directly as a good thing. ANDREW MURRAY: Well, that’s the unfortunate part of the information that most people will receive. There’s a pretty big campaign here to promote nitric oxide as healthy. I know the whole Viagra industry which is pretty much based on nitric oxide as a means to get the vasodilatation and engorgement that the pills are famous for. It’s actually very – can promote heart attack, cardiovascular accidents.

00:50:50 > RAY PEAT: And atrophy of the testicles. ANDREW MURRAY: And atrophy of the testicles. There you go. So that’s not what you want, folks. Nitric oxide and Viagra actually very bad news. And the people that produce the compound are not going to tell you that. It’s just going to feel good and it’s going to come with a lot of cost. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Until it doesn’t. RAY PEAT: Yeah. CALLER: Thank you. Thank you very much. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah, you’r welcome. Okay. So if any other callers are listening and would like to ask questions about this topic or any other topics, the toll free number is 1-800- 568-3723 and we’re very pleased to have Dr. Raymond Peat, PhD, whose been studying for the last 45, 50 years, almost here, and it’s his specialty. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: So, Dr. Peat, are red beets high in arginine or something? RAY PEAT: Yeah, I think they are. But maybe they are feeding them extra nitrate, so they can claim that they’re superbeets. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Okay. There you go.

00:51:52 > ANDREW MURRAY: I think we do have another call coming in, but let’s just see if this call’s is going to materialize or if it’s just someone asking a question offline. The lights are going here, so do we have a caller on the air? SOUND ENGINEER: Yes. The first caller just wanted to say migraines can be taken care of with 2 hits of hash. And we have a another caller in a second. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Well, that was what Dr. Peat was saying, he had been prescribed a bag of cannabis leaves for. ANDREW MURRAY: Just didn’t work. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Maybe that’s because it wasn’t hash. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay. So, caller, you’re on the air and where are you from? CALLER: [inaudible]. ANDREW MURRAY: Say that again, I didn’t hear that. CALLER: [inaudible]. ANDREW MURRAY: Did you say Humboldt? CALLER: Yeah. ANDREW MURRAY: Okay. I think you got some feedback perhaps on the line. CALLER: [inaudible] ask a question. I just wanted to know, if something is non -GMO project verified, do they still – can they still use glyphosate and atrazine and

00:52:54 > other crap on there or is it also kind of some other organic where they can’t have additives like that? ANDREW MURRAY: No. If it’s non-GMO doesn’t mean to say the farmer doesn’t use agrochemicals on it. It’s just the fact that if it is GE or GMO, you can be sure they’re putting agrochemicals on it. If it is not organic… CALLER: Are they being like chemical free? ANDREW MURRAY: If it’s not organic, you can almost surely guarantee that the possibility is high that agrochemicals are being used. The only, hopefully… CALLER: Well, that sucks. ANDREW MURRAY: The only, hopefully, sure way you can be sure is to use a certified organic product, buy certified organic vegetables and meat. And according to the USDA, you are not allowed to use any of these chemicals that we are talking about on certified organic products. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: I know they’re strict with us about what we use. And normally use chicken manure, but I don’t know if that’s just our certifying body. Maybe other certifying bodies…

00:53:56 > ANDREW MURRAY: I think it’s USDA. It’s the United States Department of Agriculture. So, yeah, the only way you can be really sure of getting good safe food at this point in time before it probably falls to some kind of control will be certified organic. CALLER: Okay. So non-GMO project verified is just kind of like a stepping stone on the way to really good food. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. It’s on the way because it’s non-GMO. But what you’ve really got to make sure is that they’re not using any agrochemicals on the product to grow it and that they’re actually producing a good quality, holistically- oriented foodstuff. CALLER: Glyphosate is a little squeaky. ANDREW MURRAY: You definitely don’t want to be putting glyphosate. CALLER: Thank a lot. I am glad for that answer. Thank you. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah, you are welcome. All right. Well, it’s six minutes to eight. So if any callers would still like to call very welcome, 923 -3911 in the area; or 800 number, 800- KMUD-RAD, which is 1-800- 568-3723. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: So, Dr. Peat,

00:54:58 > you’re going to tell us something about when you were a kid. RAY PEAT: Yeah there was the veterans believed they had been fed potassium nitrate in their food. And I've read of old 17 to 18th century things that described it as a treatment for prisoners and soldiers to decrease their libido, so that they could attend to war, not be interested in romance. For hundreds of years that was a popular concept; people seemed to recognize that it actually lowered libido. And the recent experiments with bulls and such showed that it does stop

00:56:00 > the production of testosterone. But if you look on the internet, all of the popular medical sites are saying that’s a big myth; the army would never think of doing that; prison officials would never think of poisoning their prisoners or soldiers. They forget that for hundreds of years, people were recognizing the effect. And for it to be such a historically known fact that it suppresses libido, it’s strange that everyone is so enthusiastic about denying that it’s ever happened. ANDREW MURRAY: Yeah. Sounds a little bit like the Nazi concentration camp experiments that were done, basically using people as human guinea pigs to conduct

00:57:02 > the research that supposedly has led us to great advancements in science into this day and age. RAY PEAT: Barbara Seaman, who was a great researcher on estrogen, in one of her books gave the story of the German experiments in the concentration camps, using estrogen to control, make the prisoners passive. And she was comparing the American medical practice of prescribing estrogen to practically all the women in the country. ANDREW MURRAY: Well, it’s – let me see here. It’s almost coming up for 2 minutes to the top of the hour. So let me take this opportunity to thank you so much for giving your time like you do. I know you are very busy and you’re very involved with what do you, so appreciate that time. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: I do want to ask Dr. Peat one more question. So, Dr. Peat, potassium nitrate, is that found in specific foods or is it just part of the meat preserving

00:58:04 > food additives? RAY PEAT: It’s just for an additive. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Mainly in meats or is it in other foods? RAY PEAT: The nitrates, I think, are used in some other foods, but I think it’s mainly for making meat red. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Okay. ANDREW MURRAY: For keeping it red, right. RAY PEAT: It functions as a substitute for oxygen in the hemoglobin. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: I wonder if it could be making the meat red that’s just in the counter, like packaged up, or do they have to list as a food additive? ANDREW MURRAY: Why does meat look so red on the meat counter in the supermarket? Anyway, listen, there’s two minutes to go. Let’s give people the information to get to you. That’s more important than the last question. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: Thank you, Dr. Peat. RAY PEAT: Okay, thanks. ANDREW MURRAY: Thanks so much for your time. Okay. So people, if they’ve enjoyed listening to Dr. Peat and they want to know more about him, www .raypeat.com.

He doesn’t sell anything. I know he gives a lot of his time to a lot of people for nothing and is very altruistic. He produces research because he’s passionate about it, folks. It’s not his business. He’s passionate about it. So if you’d like to go visit his website, find out more of what he has to offer, very alternative, very eye opening. The truthis out there, folks. You’ve just got to take a look, get your head out of the sand, take a look at it. Thank you so much for joining us. People like to contact us anytime Monday through Friday, business hours, 1-888-WBM- HERB. Happy Christmas, Happy New Year until January 2016. My name is Andrew Murray. SARAH JOHANNESEN MURRAY: My name is Sarah Johannesen Murray. Good night. ANDREW MURRAY: Good night.