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00:00:00 > bulletproof radio a state of high performance you're listening to bulletproof radio with Dave Asprey today's cool fact of the day is about the psychological effects of failure it turns out that failure makes the same goal seemed less attainable it distorts your perceptions of your abilities it can make you believe that you're helpless and just one single failure experience can create an unconscious fear of failure when you have fear of failure you can sabotage yourself without even knowing it and it's something that you can transmit to your own kids or maybe you got from your parents the pressure to succeed increases performance anxiety which causes you to choke and well this is the real end of the cool fact of the day it's that a great way to overcome choking is actually to whistle or mutter

00:01:01 > so when you feel like like Oh what am I gonna do just whistling or kind of stalking yourself for a while can make a difference and the psychologically healthiest response to failure is to focus on the variables that are in your control if you really want to focus on failure though you could do what I do with my kids every day I celebrate my biggest fail and they celebrate their biggest fail because if you don't fail at something it means you weren't working at your edges when failure becomes a success well then the fear of failure just goes away this is part two of the bulletproof radio interview with Tim Ferriss where we talk about the tools that successful people use to create health and wealth and wisdom and some of which can be found in his new book let's get back on with Tim have you tried up again are you willing to talk about it yeah I talk about it I can talk about a fifth yeah no I'm lactic fifth so I should just as a caveat people listening the legal in the United States the legal side effects of using anything that we're talking about right now are

00:02:02 > extremely severe and these these compounds are in the same class schedule 1 as cocaine and heroin so if you are caught with these things much more so if you are caught with enough that it could be considered intent to distribute you can go to jail for a long time 20 plus years that all having been said i have used i begin specifically I began in the alkaloids not I boga and in a mic reducing protocol and I'm sorry but I haven't heard of that's yeah so I have not gone on nor do I have very I don't have real interest in going on a full ride I boga where I began experience I know a lot of people involved in many doctors were working with heroin addicts crossroads and places yeah exactly and it has tremendous applications in that particular sphere but I began also has the worst safety record of any psychedelic that i have seen mostly related to cardiac event so to date and some people think this is the numbers

00:03:04 > are actually much higher closer to one in a hundred but the number that is thrown around is one and three hundred people have a fatal cardiac event know if you have proper medical supervision and they are looking at pulse oximeter they're looking at your pulse heart rate and you're hooked up to proper machines they have atropine on hand and so on that shouldn't happen but nonetheless it looks like at least in these somewhat highly unregulated and largely I think in many cases sadly unqualified clinics that are providing I begin people die but I've microdose tit at very low dosages we're talking in the 224 milligram range total which is at least I should say yeah at least or at maximum one one-hundredth as I understand it of the migs per kiggs full-ride dose that I would potentially use in a say ceremonial or heroin / opiate detox protocol so I I have done quite a bit of

00:04:07 > experimentation on on that side of things what's hard to get hard to get a very well where I live it's legal I'm in Canada so yeah isn't scheduled here yeah yeah the US like nipples and I began both get both get a lot of trouble now what did you experience from micro dosing that I mean I yeah or may not have micro dost a few other substances yeah for sure and actually so the three I should say that the three longest chapters in tools of titans and they're long the first is on fasting in ketosis and Dominic dagostino and we did a lot of extra conversations and a lot of emails to flesh it out the other two are all on psychedelics and talk about a lot of the experimentation than my personal schedule and so on in the case of Mike reducing i begin i can tell you exactly what i notice so first off it is it did not induce any hallucinations whatsoever which is very deliberate it had for me

00:05:10 > initially the effect of per half perhaps half a tablet of adderall and which I'm not particularly fond of I got I got I got a mild prefrontal headache if I combined it directions that combine it but if I consume green tea within two hours the the side effects meeting this this frontal headache or much worse was not the case with Black team and I had a slightly buzzy very very mildly anxious feel for the first three to four hours in that period of time though I did have heightened attention and it is used by some people as a very mild stimulant in fact it was sold in France for precisely that reason it was sold it as a stimulant many many years ago and what's interesting to me is not what happens on the first day it's what happens subsequently and there there are some speculative not entirely implausible

00:06:13 > explanations for why this would be like up-regulation of the MU opioid receptors and so on for the next two to three days I feel like my happiness set point is about fifteen percent higher fifteen to twenty percent higher and I have the non reactivity the kind of cool and dispassionate assessment of things that I don't react emotionally overly emotionally that would typically take for me two to three weeks of daily meditation without it without fail and that is like that and I I utilized in this particular case or the regimen that I landed on was Mike reducing on Mondays and Fridays so I've done that for months at a time and found it very very at least in terms of observable side effects very very low based on the my reviews of the very scant literature involving human trials

00:07:17 > and also rat studies with I became or I boga they have observed for instance at higher milligrams of ibogaine per kilogram of body weight in mice some i should say several types of brain damage but at the lower dosages certainly no one's looked at micro dosing that I'm aware of but at those doses these types of side effects were not observed and the fact the matter is the dose makes the poison so if I want to kill you with water I can kill you with water i mean and i'm not talking about drowning you i'm talking about making you drink it until your heart stops working so the dose makes the poison so it's it's it's not surprising to me that you take some weird psychedelic stimulant from west africa and you force-feed a shovelful of it to a rat the bad thing is going to happen i'm not terribly surprised by that but nonetheless it is more dangerous certainly I would say then so

00:08:20 > Simon some of these others that I mentioned at least based on the data that we have available there are some people who are aiming to develop or take metabolites like nor I began and develop them into pharmaceuticals that allow some of the detox and it appears like opiate or opioid receptor resetting that I beginning accomplishes without the some of the side effects so yeah these are these are all topics that I'm digging very deeply into for sure it's it's really fascinating because it's it's still controversial I mean there are people out there or like if use any hallucinogens you're you know it's tied to the CIA and you know you're a bad Satanist people I'm like there's a lot of wacky stuff out there but we're talking extremely small amounts that in studies and just observably improve your performance like meaningfully oh yeah and I mean the my general previous

00:09:23 > position and preference is focusing on compounds in the whole food form call me old-fashioned but I think that we can get pretty epistemological arrogant to think that we understand how exactly every component and a given plant functions the sum of the parts i think that's I think that's generally reaching because do we even have the technology to identify all the constituent components in the first place probably not so for me I defer when trying to research to certainly use these compounds to plants that have been used for millennia most likely by at least one or ideally multiple civilizations and look I mean that isn't exactly a placebo-controlled randomized trial but uh humans figure out pretty quickly over

00:10:25 > a few thousand here is a regular consumption what things really mess you up or kill you because you win a Darwin Award other word otherwise so I'm not saying all these things are safe at all by the way I I use these I use these substances with supervision I very often have medical medical personnel or MDS in attendance I take this stuff very very seriously because could you certainly exacerbate or even trigger predisposition say schizophrenia absolutely one of my cousins by marriage fried his brain is using Ellis day and his family had a history of schizophrenia and he went from super high functioning chest with is to staring off into space I kid you not and I see in that first hand part of the reason i don't use LSD but that's a longer story it has applications to a lot of stuffs just not my not my tool of choice and if you're in an unsafe environment or an uncontrolled environment you are using a hallucinogen

00:11:26 > the you may decide that you can fly and step out of a window you may decide that you want to go for a walk and walk out into a street which actually happened to me once very very early on in college when I was experimenting with these but I didn't know how to properly manage the surroundings and circumstances I came out of a trip standing in the middle of the road in the middle of the night with headlines headlights coming down on me that's not that's not safe so caveat emptor folks take the stuff seriously but very powerful compounds that have incredible applications to depress treatment-resistant depression potentially end-of-life anxiety and cancer patients PTSD opiate addiction which by the way of the 22 or 23 veterans who commit suicide in the united states every day about a third or associated with opiate addiction prescription medication opiate addiction and the list goes on if you and if you look at even with the small data set

00:12:27 > that we have so far so its preliminary let's call it that the magnitude of effect and the duration of effect after a single dose let's just say of Scylla Simon there's a study that was just a just received a bunch of coverage in the New York Times a few days ago and it was looking at cancer patients and antidepressant effects of psilocybin and I think it was seven eighty percent of the subjects you receive soul Simon seven months later still reported a significant effect from one dose there is no other intervention that I am aware of and I've read quite a bit of literature that comes even close to that and you can say the same thing for nicotine addiction and alcoholism very few people real is way back in the day when AAA was being formed the founder wanted to have LSD as one of the steps because he himself became sober after a psychedelic

00:13:30 > experience using something else but nonetheless LSD was what was most readily available at the time so I'm glad that people are revisiting this it's still very much politically maligned for scientifically I think indefensible reasons it's it's puritanical bullshit yeah I don't swear that much I'm bulletproof radio except when it's really deserved but sorry that's what it's deserved for right yeah I'm from Long Island it doesn't offend me oh I was an apologized to you Tim that was for the people listening over like Dave does it normally swear my kids are listening sorry kids don't say that at home your mops your buffs kids right now what you're saying about about using these things for drug and alcohol addiction is powerful when people ask me this and you probably get asked this all the time too like what would you do for a heroin addict these are clearly people who are asking for a friend and like in my mind there's there's two heavy big guns and one is I begane and the other one is a cerebral electrical stimulation they have the most evidence behind this

00:14:32 > is running little electrical current across the brain and everything else pales in comparison in studies if there's just things that are either controversial don't hurt over they seem scary so I'm grateful that you're you're just talking about I just laying it out there yeah i mean i mean it's it's in the dedication page all the dedication page my book is the commitment to apply a non-trivial portion of the proceeds to studies and scientific research at places like johns hopkins and so on that are hopefully going to steer the ship and get these compounds rescheduled in such a way that i'm not even concerned at this point about everybody having access to it i just want more research to be performed and what's if we want to just step away from the say addiction aspect are the applications of these compounds what's what's so fascinating but about psychedelics which is also a loaded term some people are now calling them in thia jens yeah is that at different dosages the same compound behaves like a

00:15:34 > completely different drug that is wild right so you have we're talking about Mike reducing so in the case of LSD you might have ten micrograms or fifteen as a microdose then that is sub perceptual so as one person put it the rocks don't glitter even a little and the flowers don't turn to look at you okay so this is very sub perceptual and micro dosing is since shown as I think you mighta mentioned some very interesting applications to endurance sports oh yeah now then you get to let's just call it a museum or a concert dose 50 milligrams and then you start moving up saying it's call it 101 150 basically tab right yeah for creative problem-solving including the hard sciences so James fadiman who's in the book as well worked with a number of corporations at one point who brought in people who had become stuck trying to say design new circuit boards or solve complex mathematical problems it was something like 30 3 out of 35 with his particular regimen which involved LSD

00:16:35 > were able to then find solutions maining solve equations or published papers design circuit boards 30 30 35 or something just incredible like that so that's that's the skull like 150 then you go up and you get to sort of the transcendent and then the heroic and you know if you want to cleave away from your you want to cleave off your evo your ego and strap yourself to the Icebreaker of existential pain and delight then there's that too right so it's it's incredible how different the effects are it's not like the you start seeing the same effect at a low dose and then it just gets more intense it's it's very very different yeah yeah very well filled yeah go figure hopefully we'll learn more after it after a whole set of dozens and dozens of studies get done I've thought about actually funding studies in Canada for for a lot of reasons including cost of legality and therefore cost for say you know if I'm

00:17:36 > serious about that that Tim I mean I'm not a Canadian citizen yet I'm a permanent resident up here but they have Canadian rance for R&D that's done up here where the government writes checks for a lot of money for Canadian based companies even though they're not owned and run by Canadians to you could probably get like doubling down on whatever the grant was as long as there's an RD aspect to it so go Canada is a cool place and dollars are very cheap / you can just buy them like with the survey dollars to get like extra money so you get extra security blue knees as they exactly it now well let me do a quick time check with you I we can go over some more stuff in the book you have time for that you want to get chatting for a little while yeah I've had fun I i have to i do have a I what do you think about like maybe another 15 minutes does that work you so I have a look I have a date with another smart drug which is known as wine and I have a bit of a meeting and a commitment that have to get to but yeah I'm having

00:18:37 > to do another let's let's do another 15 I'm happy to talk about whatever all right I can respect that commitment to mine but you're gonna have to share with with our listeners exactly which one you have a date with haha well uh you know I was enjoying some trip each a Malbec and katina Baalbek which is from high altitude from Argentina and tonight you know i I've been getting a little frisky I've been getting a little promiscuous with my wine drinking and I know nothing about Italian once over the last two days have been having very fruity a Pinot Noir esque Italian wines that I can't pronounce so that's uh that's my I guess it's a blind date at this point I don't know who's going to show up fair enough now you had Lyme disease your real public about that or a while which which we chatted at the time and I had it for a long time and it totally knocked me down and one of the reasons that I know so much about ketosis and all is that it really helped me get my

00:19:38 > brain back on I I can tolerate wine now better than I ever could in the last like 15 years what I want to know and I think a substantial number people listening want to know too did you tolerate wine and beer and things like that before Lyme disease during Lyme disease did it change after Lyme disease that is a very good question that i haven't pondered before ought to be honest i don't recall drinking very much when i was at ten percent when I was really really knocked down my drink yeah yeah I mean I was operating at literally ten percent at best capacity for about nine months and I don't remember much from that period yeah a brain fog is severe I don't remember much at all of what happened other than just painful joints and slurred speech and forgetting for names and ya feeling like I had dementia for that period of time I don't know you pretty much you pretty much did yeah pretty much to do and I don't think I

00:20:42 > drank very much during that period so I I couldn't tell you i would say that at this point my response to alcohol seems to be roughly equivalent to what it was before lyme disease but I'll tell you something else is that when I not sure I mentioned this when we spoke about it when I had the very imperfect but unfortunate solely available testing done so the West a lot Neely's was so hot they said you realize that you've actually had Lyme disease before right and the long term antibodies were positive and so that I think it explains some some really tough periods that I had when I was kid that had a lot of long term I think implications but to the alcohol question i don't know i can share a little discovery though that you might enjoy sure related to alcohol so I I had a really tough breakup maybe a year and a half ago and long

00:21:43 > relationship and I won't get into all the juicy details but no one did anything bad it was just one of those like I think it's time we r sir doesn't yeah time for us to part ways and it's very tough for me and one of my buddies being a good buddy was like hey idiot you're not allowed to mope around in your house for the next six months come to Sweden with me I'm going to sweet and I was like all right I'll go to sweetie get the bra and and I kind of dragged myself there and my friend just proceeded to try to feed me ungodly amounts of alcohol and conservative to do stupid research and what I noticed though after two nights of drinking i would say an amount of alcohol half of which would normally make me vomit without any subsequent vomiting I was like what is going on here this is really where I've never had this much alcohol and not vomited halfway through because I mean we're talking dozens of drinks like vodka gone wine champagne it was filthy and you were mixing them oh it was terrible I

00:22:46 > mean there's the worst sort of night out alcohol hygiene you could imagine it was terrible but I didn't get sick and I was puzzled by this and so I started looking at the various supplements and so on that I was taking my diet trying to figure out what might account for it because it was it was consistent and what I eventually found doing some searches on not only pubmed but on google books is that lysine appears to affect ethanol metabolism so I was taking l-lysine a few grams a day to just prevent any type of flu or whatnot because I was low low on sleep to begin with low on sleep afterwards I forgotten my passport I couldn't I it was a big disaster getting there so I was really sleep-deprived and didn't want to get sick so I was taking all this out lysine and I've I've replicated that since I don't know if it's reliable I don't know if there's much there there but uh so

00:23:49 > that is something if I know I'm going to have a big night like I had a couple of nights ago at a friend's bachelor party which was uh you know alcohol in those quantities not my preferred sport but L icing is definitely part of the portfolio oh that's that's a pretty cool experiment yeah I i will also share now call thing which is going to offend wine consumers everywhere i am pretty sketchy on a lot of American wines because our standards for mycotoxins are not nearly as tight as Europeans like a good French wine is like to parts per billion in here I think it's 10 and it's not well regulated so I I feel the difference in our dreams when i get American line I don't get it from French wine and there are some good American brands there just like it's hit you got to know which vintage in what year and all that so I had some wine that was organic and reasonably clean but I was a little nervous and I was with in Hawaii and I drink half half of it and the next day like oh this has

00:24:51 > been sitting out and I'll just try this so I took the wine put it in the blender headed the brain octane and some ice and I blended it up and it makes this crazy lavender color that's entirely unnatural for a food and yes it was ruining a wine but had already been opened for 24 hours so it wasn't that simple but the the brain octane actually in in studies helps to prevent damage from LPS lipopolysaccharides that alcohol escorts across the gut specifically to the liver so it basically supports liver stuff and so just biochemical aim like this might make me not have an effect so I drink half the bottle the first Knight and Wilson got mildly buzzed and fuck it and but it was a little stiff the next morning and i drank the other half the next night and I was like okay I did it taste more like a wine cooler smoothie thing it was like it was like delicious i sampled it on other people without telling what was not like what drink is this like i want to buy that like it was good enough to pass the the fruity umbrella straw test anyway i don't know

00:25:54 > what that what that's worth it but you might like when you're in ketosis you might see that there's a difference there so my question there's were you in ketosis were you running on a no beta alkoxy puter right I was not okay no no it's Sweden it was like hey you want some more bread with your bread it was it was definitely not you know keto friendly but my wife is Swedish and yeah they need bread and herring and nothing else and cheese way yes ah sweet I love Sweden but um so I on the alcohol question about as it related to Lyme I don't know I don't know I really don't feel like I have any residual symptoms at this point for you which is great so congratulations on that there's a lot of people who work that quite a bit that's been a big area of focus for me because they're like you you're saying I had it when I was young there's a lot of people walking I don't have Lyme have water damage in their environment or some other biological like like pathology and they don't know it and they walk around like angry all the time and like hating everyone around them and it's like it's biological it's

00:26:55 > not that you're an asshole it's that something is tweaking on you to make you act like an asshole and you probably feel bad about it yeah and it's it's really my one of my first recommendations I am NOT against antibiotics i think they serve an important function there's a lot of nonsense out there related to lyme disease i think it's widely misdiagnosed and all that haven't been said if people have tried the conventional therapies and and don't seem to be making progress i as an adjunct to a number of friends have recommended getting to at least two millimolar 'he's and you just measuring it with a precision extra for instance katonic state through fasting then followed by diet and a very small sample size were talking maybe a five close friends who've come to me with this so far a hundred percent success rate in terms of dramatically reducing or eliminating the symptoms of Lyme or what

00:27:57 > they assumed was lime right yes because who knows I I didn't look it there it's what was theirs theirs mitochondrial pathologies that all kind of manifest the same way there's a toxin from lime this toxin from others toxin from fish there's excess mercury but they all reduce mitochondrial function and ketones turning back up right again yeah it's kind of cool that's why I'm focusing so much on mitochondria in the next book because I'm like wait what's the uniting element and everything I've ever done that worked like that's what they were yeah so how about a journey hits two hits to the head do I remember you talk to me about TBI oh I have plenty hits that yes I've plenty of just from all the years of combat sports and kickboxing and boxing and so on and wrestling judo getting thrown on my head I mean it's it's pretty definitive i would say we're certain that i have a decent amount of I've had concussions for sure I mean one hundred percent diagnosed I've been knocked unconscious it's not good I've been I've been looking at the brains of senior executive types with the 40 years

00:28:59 > of Zen neurofeedback stuff and ninety percent of people come in for a performance upgrade they have an observable TBI they don't know about like look this part of your brain looks like it's been smacked and you can see it with a 24 channel EEG with software interpolation I think it's a major performance inhibitor for even some of the world's highest performers worth and like I I took a really good hit to the head like a really bad TBI I I got food poisoning and passed out and just my head hit the floor right in the temple like I I couldn't play go fish with my kids because my working memory was shot I was swearing all the time and I fortunately have the right tools once I recognized that it was a what it was I was able to come back in a couple weeks but during that couple weeks I was like I I was kind of an asshole like like to to my employees to friends and you don't even know what's happening and I've talked with a few other really high performing people who had some like this happen and like oh my god I'm so embarrassed like the things I did and

00:30:01 > it's like you're not yourself right yeah yeah it's I can't turn back the sands of time at this point so I'm making the best of it but I do think that it's certainly a contributing factor or maybe a controlling factor to the depressive periods have had I think that it will almost certainly plays a role in a lot of the depression suicide etc that we see them veterans whether very often they've been exposed to IEDs or different types of head trauma and you know these are these are all things that I'm exploring but yeah I'm trying not to do so derek sivers is an incredible entrepreneurial so it's really kind of a philosopher programmer who built cdbaby which at the time was the largest independent music market I suppose you could say platform in the world which he later sold I what he says to himself and the advice he'd give his younger self is one of the pieces is don't be a

00:31:04 > donkey and this is going somewhere so don't be a doggy you'll remind himself and a number of my listeners have put the summer on their kitchen mirrors and things like that or rather bathroom mirrors and it refers to burdens ass so when when Derek was in his 30s he felt like the world wanted to pressure him into specializing in one thing but he wanted to do 10 things and he didn't want to conform to the expectations and other people and he wanted to have it all do it all and burdens ass is a fable there's a donkey in between hey on one side water on the other and it can't decided wants to eat / wants to drink eat drink eat drink because the donkey can't think long-term and of course could just do one and then the next but it ends up dying in the middle because because it can't make a decision and don't be a donkey to him was effectively you can do it all you just can't do it at the same time you have to focus on one thing for a year then maybe another for a year if you try to do all 10 things you'll get to a point five years later you will not have made progress on any of them and there are so many areas

00:32:07 > that I'd like to explore particularly through more scientific studies and rigor but the first domino that I want to tip over is the is the psychedelics the TBI is very interesting to me I think that the psychedelics in a way is an umbrella potential modality and treatment that could and actually there's some literature to support this oh yeah why you're very right that's why I brought it up actually was because of the psychedelic angle there are people hit their head a large positions I'm get PTSD and you can work on the PTSD around that with the psychedelics and maybe even just with increasing connectivity so I'm Tim I I love it that you're you're working with Johns Hopkins and that you're you're pushing on this because it's just science ya like like we want to know how it works and if we don't do the research will never know how it works yeah and then the ld50 right the dosage that would kill fifty percent of the population or at least the subjects in the given study for these is so low with the exception of I

00:33:08 > began and the case of say solo Simon that the safety really is is not an issue for at least a number of these compounds when done in a proper setting so the fact that their schedule one which is high potential for abuse or addiction which is ludicrous when you look at the existing data and be no known medical application it's silly which is why I think it's very important to use populations that are very hard to attack or malign so cancer patients terminal cancer patients veterans people who have treatment resistant depression those are bipartisan issues right this should not be controversial so trying to I'm trying to take that I can politically charged emotional debate that is the very counterproductive for the last few decades and turn it into just one of open-minded scientific inquiry and we'll see you know it's it's it's it's going to be a challenge but it's the type of challenge that I like

00:34:11 > and fortunately with a lot of the lot of the habits and so on that I've accumulated over the last few years I'd become a little less combative and a little better at empathy and seeing solutions that aren't necessarily win lose that was always that way but I become better at I think seeing multiple sides of the problem or as say Djoko willing would say detaching stepping back and just being able most have this out-of-body experience where I can look at something a situation and observe if someone thinks I'm angry or if if if the emotional tone is off if I'm conveying my message but I'm doing it in a way that sounds aggressive even though it's not intended to be and it was it was really wild with with tools of titans that as I wrote it I'm such a checklist Excel spreadsheet data export and crunch type of guy when I look at and I know

00:35:13 > you do something very similar I would imagine for behavioral change like okay I want to instill this particular behavior in this following change we going to look at the science and I'm going to take methodical step-by-step approach and I'm going to design on the frequency and the dosage and this and that and i'm going to track my metrics so i didn't do any of that when i was editing this book but just by sheer exposure and osmosis i suppose i started and maybe it's in part because i've designed the book in such a way that these are short very short profiles five to ten pages typically and then each point each tactic is maybe one to two paragraphs and I just ended up using them without all of that apparatus all that heavy lifting and I'm not going to say bullshit but it just showed me that you don't always have to have this huge amount of scaffolding around instilling something like that which was reassuring for me quite frankly because

00:36:14 > that stuff is fatiguing it's kind of its kind of tiring to have all those level of abstractions so it's been nice to just snack on Scooby Snacks and have them actually pan out it's so relaxing that way I I did go through a period and sounds like guess what you're talking about where I was maybe tracking more than was beneficial but like I'm a kind of track what you hack and the rest I'm just noticed how do I feel right now and yeah that's actually mindfulness yeah a certain way and in doing the the reverse root cause analysis event correlation is that that's a practiced art and you can use the numbers for that yeah and you can get super fancy right i mean i've been involved as quantified self since the very very first meetup 20 some odd people in Kevin Kelly's house in 2008 or 2009 so I I've witnessed mass data tracking and consumption and I've done it myself but I think sometimes it's as simple as something that Jodie Foster

00:37:16 > said and I might get slightly off but it's pretty close which was in the end success is sleeping well there you go very well said like all right why don't we just finally just look at how easy it is for you to fall asleep and how you feel any wake up and that is that as I think as good a barometer is as just about anything else for most of what matters but hey still a student still a work in progress still try to figure it out all right two more questions one short 11 meeting one all right short question what percentage of the titans out there the both ones you've interviewed and not interviewed do you think have been heavily influenced not heavily have been meaningfully influenced by a psychedelic experience well i would say in Silicon Valley the kind of open secret is you look at the top tier folks and they're there i think there are many potential explanations for this but uh sir eric

00:38:19 > weinstein who's a PhD mathematician physicist he's the managing director of teal capital so he works directly at peter thiel he calls it the he was very much anti every drug for his entire life as straight-laced as you can imagine and only in the last few years has been exposed to psychedelics because he he identified what he called the psychedelic elite and in Silicon Valley he just said hey in the top five ten percent of the performers in pretty much every area in this particular world this particular corner everyone it has used or is currently using psychedelics in some capacity no I don't want to say that that is causal that they are that good yeah husband maybe when you're that driven your neuroses are also a hundred x everyone else so you need a powerful intervention to even maintain a semblance of sanity as you're trying to hit all these home runs maybe but I

00:39:21 > would say it's it's it's an extremely high percentage if we're looking at the thai if we're looking at the titans it is it is a very very very high percentage not all of them are ready to talk about it publicly of cause of the legal status of these compounds but it's a it's a very high percentage that is my understanding as well in my experience is that it's a substantial high percentage I wish more than felt safe enough to talk about it yeah and maybe 20 years from now they will and when the laws change but we can talk about it without naming names and I just want to reiterate that there are teenagers who listened as their parents listen to this like this is not dropping acid and going to Disneyland because that is like neurologically spiritually emotionally psychologically dangerous and ill-advised like do not play with these we're down we're talking about something different yeah yeah it's totally different I mean that you would treat it like you are choosing a neurosurgeon to excise the tumor from your brain you're

00:40:22 > not going to go in craigslist to find someone to do that you're not going to go to Burning Man and grab a hula-hoop and walk off into the desert with someone and a center for neurosurgery on you so treat it that way and I mean there are plenty of warnings and caveats and so on and tools of titans so definitely don't skip those pay attention to the protocol alright the next question and the last go into the interview and is when you've answered before but I want to look at the Delta here now that you've written tools of titans you've you've absorbed this knowledge from those 10,000 pages of transcripts and the act of writing crystallizes things in your brain so so well it's really cool know if someone came to you today and said look I want to kick acid everything I do on a kick ass at life what are the three most important pieces of advice you would have for me what would you offer them three most important things to kick ass in all areas yeah and it was i'm going to be a better at everything i do what do i need to know alright the first answer if you ask richard branson would

00:41:23 > be workout exercise seriously so I think that exercise and specifically for me in the last few years bodyweight calisthenics like gymnastic strength training there's a coach Christopher summer in the healthy section I talk about effective the combination of gymnastic strength training acro yoga and ketosis and fasting were would have completely changed my life from a physical and mental performance standpoint so i would i would give the same answer as richard branson which is work out but specifically i would say investigate body's just the company or some form of gymnastic strength training which focuses on mobility ie the ability to exhibit strength in your end ranges it's very different than passive flexibility but it does something very interesting i don't know if it's brain derived neurotrophic factor or whatever probably but cognitively man if i do that two or

00:42:25 > three times a week even minimally you know short sessions 30 to 60 minutes it's been a game changer so I would say that's the millennium or when you cross the midline it causes more connections between the hemispheres and a lot of the twists and things like that you're applying pressure I believe that might be your out of it but I love love that answer no one's ever been that specific with exercise so thank you for specificity yeah it was there for sure so number two would be it would have to be diet-related i would say uh specifically what would i say specifically related to diet honestly i would say this is gonna sound weird but a combination and i'm kind of cheating here but combination of regular fasting for longevity because what good does it do if you could ask for ten years and then crow amen so regular fasting and we don't have time to get into exactly what that means but I do shorter regular monthly and then longer say a quarterly

00:43:26 > and annual and uh eating shitty food and this is maybe bleeding into a number three but eating really not shitty eating really really really really cheap food for at least a few days a month wearing the same clothing for that entire period and try sleeping on a sleeping bag on your floor and here's why this is related to a letter I'm getting a super specific and dirty because I've oh this is letter 13 on on festivals and fasting from seneca the younger to Luke ilyas it's a letter where he talks about fear rehearsal you are practicing your worst case scenario losing all your money let's say so what do you do maybe you go camping but you would wear safe I wear like a cheap t-shirt and our genes cheap shoes that's it for the week and then I'll either fast the whole time or I will survive and it's really not that bad quite frankly on same instant oatmeal or rice and beans and

00:44:29 > something that's two to three dollars a day Max and cost and experience what it would be like to rehearse poverty in this case and it is it is it makes you extremely resilient and able to take bold steps in different directions because you realize that the worst case in many respects isn't that bad you might actually come out of the experiment really really happy that's that's another weird side effect so I know there's a huge cheat but that's like the diet / practice of some some pragmatic practice dietary poverty there we go there we go and then number three number three kick ass in all areas would be asked absurd questions asked absurd questions this came up over and over and over and over again interviewing Peter Thiel is serial billionaire gist yeah he's a good guy incredible guy Peter Diamandis chairman of the XPrize the questions like why can't you why can't

00:45:30 > you achieve your 10 year plans in the next six months and don't just think about it for 10 seconds and then move on then sit down and write three pages stream of consciousness or questions like this is a question Peter Diamandis he asks companies who want his investment he'll say how could you 10x your company's economics in the next I'm making up this number but three months and if they say that's impossible his responses I don't accept that answer try again and these types of crazy absurd questions you know I used to ask myself still do sometimes but like if I had a gun against my head I was like when I was writing this book okay so this is the section kind of funny I was epicly upon these absurd questions absurd questions like okay well let's try that in the process of writing the book and I would a journal on questions like how would I write this book if I only had a week to do it okay and it's very important that their absurd I mean seemingly impossible and the goal isn't to determine how to write it in the week it's to aim hi and crazy that you probably land

00:46:31 > somewhere in between and there's something you can really use that you wouldn't have thought of if you're trying to do it incrementally so asking absurd questions is is number three for me I love those answers and they are different than your last ones not that I've memorized them but after three hundred and something some large number I don't have mole memorized but I'm going to go back when you write the blog post for this yeah and we'll do it comfy I'd be curious I'd be curious to check it out like like what did Tim Ferriss learned from his is from the tim ferriss show and from tools of titans yeah the book the book is available now people can pick it up it's everywhere up it at their bookstore they can go online they can order it from wherever books are sold and you have a website set up for tools of titans calm yeah tools of titans calm you can find sample chapters Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote the foreword which is still surreal and blows my mind cool which is which is honestly really empowering to read by itself it's it's it's a it's it's title could be because

it's the beginning of the piece I am NOT a self-made man really interesting about learning from other people and that's that's that's a good place to go tools of times or B&N calm I amazoncom wherever calm or your local bookstore you'll be able to find it everywhere it's hard to miss I mean it's gigantic it has a bright red car cover on it so if it's there it'll be hard to this well Tim thanks for being on bulletproof radio today my pleasure man thanks for having me land I appreciate it if you enjoyed today's episode you know what to do I don't out and pick up a copy of Tim's book read it use the knowledge and to do something good it's a pretty straightforward ask and it's actually worth your time to do it I really do my best to not waste your time on the show this is hopefully a useful interview for you with lots of tidbits and I'm looking forward to hearing from you on the next episode you