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00:00:00 > today's cool fact of the day is that doctors will soon be able to diagnose disease or other states of wellness from your breath by just looking at gases like acetones that come out of your body researchers just developed a laser in the mid infrared frequency range that can detect really low levels of concentration of gases a laser like this could also probably detect methane so you could understand greenhouse gases and climate issues and a predecessor of this is already used by your friendly neighborhood police officer who can shine that flashlight into the window of your car except it's not just a flashlight it's got an infrared laser looking for alcohol on your breath cool huh before we get going on today's podcast check out the sleep infographic on the site because being bulletproof isn't really going to happen unless you're getting quality sleep and getting

00:01:03 > good quality sleep is more important than getting a lot of sleep according to the data anyway I often sleep less than five hours a night and I'm able to perform really well whether I got two hours five hours six or even eight hours there's a lot of info you can check out on the blog about sleep packing and the new infographic that's up there is on the bulletproof sleep induction map page at upgraded self calm this infographic has everything you need to know about sleep all in a single infographic so check it out on upgraded self calm now on to the show today's a lovely guest is re my cell re is an former Ironman triathlete I guess you could say he's also the author of less doing more living a book that's being released april third check them out at less doing book calm and this is a really cool book that you're going to want to check out and that's why I've invited re end of the show so we can talk about some of his discoveries there are he's also a

00:02:04 > biohacker he has two young kids idolizes Harry Houdini and has started a couple companies including lead Pro which does green buildings and his current company called less doing and is it true re that your wife is a vegetarian no hmm are you because I have something here about now week David all right diet what's up with that no we did well first of all I was a vegetarian for about four or five months I think when I was going through experimentation no weekday vegetarian is uh is Graham hills behind from treehugger oh no my wife is definitely my wife is more than meat eater than I on a choice so somewhere in when I was looking around for interesting bio you know bio info on you I found something about that and by the way if you were vegetarian or your wife was it doesn't matter people eat whatever makes him feel good and that's part of being bulletproof and like I have you know no problems with that but it's just kind of funny because i was going to tease you yes you stole my

00:03:06 > thunder yeah yeah sorry so I was vegan for a month of that you can hit that one if you want what happened when you were vegan for a month see we really planned all those questions in advance right like I didn't think you tried it nothing didn't you feel really good for a little while I did well let's see did I feel really good I felt like not as bad let's put it that way but I didn't feel like I was getting any better cuz this Lee I felt like it what is less bad come yeah what's doing what it was but but then again you know what I've learned and in hindsight is it oh there is a good there is a proper way to do the vegan diet but I think that most people like ninety-five percent of people don't do it and I have these two friends right now who are doing their 21-day vegan challenge on facebook and they keep posting like you know the the nut cheerios but in other cereals and like the the preprocessed milks and stuff like that it's just you know just cutting out meat doesn't mean that what you're eating is good you know I found that when i went on the coke and doritos vegan diet yeah absolutely video wit with heroin it was like there's also all

00:04:08 > sorts of things that aren't good for you that aren't any cigarettes e-cigarettes don't forget oh that's right so it's kind of funny but i can tell you i felt much better when i went on the vegan died I lost weight I improved my focus and what I didn't know was that for the first three months I was hiding mitochondrial issues because of my excessive intake of omega-3 fats and that after three months things were not going to go in the right direction so it's interesting that you didn't feel anything when you went on on the vegan diet for a little while yeah I just I wasn't feeling as much pain exactly but I know I wasn't like getting better right one of the things that's that's really interesting about you is is like me I had a bunch of different things like Lyme disease toxic mold exposure arthritis chronic chronic fatigue whatever the whole big thing that I overcame but but you have Crohn's which is which is really crappy and you turned it around what happened to you in 2006 when you found out you had Crohn's and what changes did you have to make and so Crohn's is you know it's really horrible because its first of all it's a young

00:05:10 > person's as these so I find like the more and more people that I work with now they're just getting younger and the last person that I got a call from was the mother of a 14 year old so it's a young person's disease so right away you're hitting a population that that isn't likely to look for alternatives because it's just like messing with your social life you know and you don't want to think about anything else so I fortunately was in the beginning of a very serious relationship at the time with Anna who is now my wife but it hit me in retrospect so I was 23 when I got diagnosed in retrospect I'd been having symptoms since I was 14 a couple times a yard have a really really really bad stomach ache and the last two times before I was diagnosed they thought it was appendicitis that magically showed itself by the time I got to the hospital so yeah versatile appendicitis you I love that the last time they get I went through the cat scan I like what we see inflammation it might be your appendix but you know we're not sure so go home and you know what we call come back if you want okay right anyway my first diagnosis of Crohn's was by voicemail

00:06:11 > the doctor left me a voicemail and said you have Crohn's disease and you're gonna have to be taking these eight different medicines you know call me if any questions well so yeah and I was I'm basically you know Depression hit about as quickly as it possibly could and then I went to another doctor who diagnosed it again but was a little more measured about it but sure enough within about four months i was taking 16 pills a day and including systemic steroids and a leukemia drug and you know ever ever exact basically and what was horrible was that I wasn't getting any better and one particular bad night I may say we went out to this big meal and we had a it was a barbecue restaurant and I had an attack that night it was always at like two in the morning you know which is I guess a few hours after i started to digest and we went to the hospital and the doctors telling me he's like what would you eat which is a kind of amazing because they don't usually ask that it's very progressive right yes right so I said okay well I had the barbecue brisket no

00:07:13 > that's not it I had baked beans okay that sounded I had this I had this at it and then the last thing i said was i had an iceberg lettuce ow he's like that's it that was what it was it was probably the iceberg lettuce because it's not digestible very much is too much fire probably got stuck and okay so because of that i was literally afraid to eat greens for like six months after that you know afraid like like i'd get like a panic attack if I saw shredded lettuce you know on a plate somewhere it was just horrible of course because it's exactly the opposite and they continue to tell you that diet has nothing to do with it eat whatever you want I actually just had a crohn's client of mine who is doing great and with with the diet change that i put them on and he happened to you went to his doctor and the doctor made him go see the nutritionist in the office and she told him this makes me mad cell she told him that a great breakfast for m wid be an English muffin with peanut butter so I was so upset by that and I don't usually get stressed anymore but that really bothered me all right you must know about the link between aflatoxin in the

00:08:15 > human body and Crohn's disease have you seen the Reno so I never did until the first podcast that you had me on of yours I've been told me in that podcast and then and which was you know I over a year ago and that was oh no no a couple over two years ago and that research it was stuck with me yes absolutely okay so you found the original study and all that yeah yeah yes so peanut butter is a common source of aflatoxins even the stuff they sell today it is controlled levels but it's not low aflatoxin by a long measure so to tell a kid to eat gluten and aflatoxin and and these sorts of very long-chain saturated fats that are bad for you like that doctor honestly like they should have to have like a prescription pad to this you have to write the recipes they want you to take on it because it's not okay for a doctor to use the power of the white lab coat to tell you to take food unless they're trained an expert on the food and that was a negligent recommendation like that that's not okay it's really upsetting really exciting and you know you fret too i mean if you didn't mention the fact that that's basically a form it's like cake to sugar basically you know that's all is so anyway I had this one

00:09:19 > really really bad night where I literally thought I was gonna die and I was in the hospital and you're you know when you get obstructed with crumbs for basically just waiting to see if it comes out otherwise you got to go to surgery and then surgery doesn't work because you have to do it again usually because they never ever tell you to change your lifestyle so I got out of the hospital that night and I was like I have to do something different so that's why I went to extremes and so I've been you know afraid of greens eating whatever crap i was eating and then went vegan for a month which again i started to not feel so crappy but i wasn't feeling like I was getting much better and I didn't have a lot of energy so then I went vegetarian properly vegetarian I think for almost five months and then I reintroduced fish and now he you know now I need everything and now he's high fat and and and in the end the high-fat I think was the real the real killer which was a really are real cure okay I was like well the real killer that's alright sorry the killer move and it's funny because butter which is named for you know for did uric acid added butter they give butyrate sub

00:10:22 > suppositories it's like that's not a fun way to get your beautiful I've never heard of taking butter that way but hey no but whatever you're into but that's what it's like why can't you just tell someone to eat some more butter you know it sounds ridiculous but yeah I i gave a talk about a week ago at david Wolf's conference longevity now and David's kind of on the raw vegan side of things but he has a really passionate following of people who are also biohackers and I kind of felt guilty I stood up there I'm like okay guys just a confession at the start I'm a lacto-ovo be folk Porco vegetarian right and then these guys were they laughed you know it was actually an amazing audience these about like 1500 people really into health so they're using super foods and I just tossed up the butter facts like here's the studies about butter and a lot of math words like oh my goodness like I never thought that butter might be something I could consider as a superfood so they're actually vegan too honestly the vegans I know many of them

00:11:24 > are starved for saturated fats because coconut oil alone even if you just like eat tons of it it it's not all the saturated fats that your need so when they do that and they add just key which is you know there's no animal proteins in there at all they just had that back in like their skin comes back there their eyes get healthy or likely feel better so I consider it to be like a critical food for humans at this point well I and not to be too detailed but so this one had this one client who and by the way I've replicated my results in about 15 people now with crohn's the he hadn't had a solid stool in three years and after a week of eating high fat and eating this way he had his first one he sent me a picture I I named it after you yes you know but it's like well the proof is in the poop you know what my four-year-old to be laughing right now any type of a coupe it's funny a whole conversation of with adults about poop oh my god that that's not honest at this

00:12:26 > point well bit so I got off my meds after about five months and and then it was all kind of uphill from there alright so how did getting crohn's disease turn into less doing i'm assuming that isn't less doing something on the potty so right yes so basically so I did the I am I figured out the diet of thought and I figured out a supplements and I figured out the fitness although you know I went I did Tough Mudder and then I did a half iron and then I end up doing Iron Man and in there you know I was eating a lot of stuff that would not be really considered great for you and a lot of the gel packs and things but you just it's what you got to do sometimes for those things stove it after iron man it was kind of like well I did that that was great oops I could do it but now what I kind of have to I have to think of next step you know and I wanted to keep doing better so what I realized very quickly was that the largest element that was left and my illness and my body was still stress you know so I still had that thing that if somebody if I under

00:13:27 > an argument or there was a business thing that went wrong I would feel it in my stomach you know immediately and so I think how do I start attacking this so oddly my way of dealing with that was to create a system or productivity so I basically wanted to free up as much time as possible with the goal of freeing up as much of my mind and my brain power as possible so they could do the things I wanted to do focus on the things I wanted to and also have the headspace to not react badly to things because I i I'm probably been a very like sensitive person my whole life and I tend to internalize all that stuff so let's doing grew out of that and there's nine fundamentals to be more productive but the ninth fundamental is wellness and it really comes full circle to you know you can be as technologically efficient as you want to be but if you're not sleeping well you're not eating right or you're sooo stressed you're not gonna be able to be as effective as you want to be what so now this is a bit of a challenge to your ideas here and I want to think about getting things done so I

00:14:28 > was a fan of getting things done for a couple years and four people were listening who haven't checked it out getting things done as a methodology where you file everything so you don't have to worry that you might have forgotten something now it works but I found that I was spending an enormous amount of time filing crap that I didn't need to file so what I realized was that I was filing because I was afraid that I might forget something or drop something I could deal with the fear by making sure it didn't happen by creating a complex system in my life but I could also train my nervous system to recognize that sometimes something may fall and I'm going to put systems in place but they're probably not perfect they're just efficient and that with those systems that were good enough if I could remove my fear of letting something fall that I could actually have more energy more time less fear and kind of more call it liberation and so I stopped filing everything and started using the search engine and I file almost nothing and

00:15:29 > i sometimes can't find what I want very quickly but it's okay and I'm not going to die so the level of relaxation I got from a more moderate approach was better and now I kind of feel like GTD as a response to fear how is less doing in your case you were stressed all the time so you like I'll change these behaviors rather than changing the stress response what made you change the behaviors well so it's a really good question and actually i interviewed Dave Allen for the MPS conference that i did as well and i'm doing and we had a really great discussion about this first of all different put activity systems work for different people right so and i love when you know i recommend evernote a lot of times to people as this this sort of external brain resource i call it creating the external brain and i do i I subscribe to that idea that if you have an idea in your head you should get it out of your head because we don't we it's not a good resource for holding odds ideas it's a great resource for coming up with ideas but not a really good one for holding on to them so that's more about getting it out of your head and I sort of focus more on the the

00:16:32 > options at your disposal if something comes your way so it's not so much about like phyllo getting away create this complex system which I agree is something more stressful in a lot of situations but yes so you focus on the way that you react to stress and then you have to set up pathways for those things to take so if something's gonna stress me out because you know someone's going to call me and say I have to get this bill paid right away well for me it's very easy i can say okay well this gets forwarded to this particular person this virtual assistant or this bookkeeper and that's an automatic thing that just happens right so i don't have to stress because i know that the options are there you know somebody sends me oh we really want you to write this blog post okay well i can only write after nine o'clock at night it's something I've learned about myself very effectively so that gets forwarded to you know using a service i love called follow up at CC I forward that to 9pm at fault on CC and then I forget about it so it's it's almost like making treating yourself like an idiot sometimes you know that I don't want to be thinking about these things so it's like just which lever do I pull right that's also

00:17:35 > gets into this decision-making fatigue you know I think about you remember you have to decide to do it it just comes in and you do it right right exactly I use my calendar the same way like like I have this conversation in the morning sometimes like when we're getting the kids ready for school and Lana my wife will say what are you doing at a 2 p.m. I'm like I have no idea what I'm doing a DVM are you kidding me that's like six meetings from now or maybe 10 and I'm gonna record to podcast and I'm like I don't know and like I can open my phone as useless you can open your phone and you wasn't going out or I can look at my calendar but to store all that in my head honestly I have better things to do with my my intellectual capacity and remembering a whole bunch of stuff that some other device can remember I've consciously decided that i'm not going to make that a part of my stress response absolutely and you did the same thing so there's an external I system even if it's maybe less rigidly organized than with David Allen who I have a lot of respect with david allen i just found that GTD didn't work for me yeah and it didn't work for me either it

00:18:36 > was part of that is that well GTD honestly works really well if you hand write things honestly because you know GTD is great if you have like a pad on your fridge and you have a pad next to your desk when you have a pad in your car and you can just write things down sort of like off the cuff and then you know deal with them later I can't read my own handwriting so and that's probably because i've been using computers you know since fourth grade and my handwriting never developed as well as it should've but that that's one of the reasons that it does not work for me like i need t-systems that's just technologically flow very well for me okay cool I agree with you there and assembling the right system is is critically important yeah are you a gmail guy or you and Alec guy I am absolutely a gmail guy I think gmail is one of the number one and most underrated productivity resources available to the human race so do you do you have any privacy or security issues they're given that pretty much it's an

00:19:37 > open letter to the NSA to read everything you do so what you know it's like honestly so what you know the thing is is I 23andme has a saliva sample with my GNA in it you know somebody really wanted to get in there they would you know any time you send a blood sample through the mail which I know you and I have both done somebody might intercept that and you know do something with it if something is too private for email don't use email it's a it's not a bad thing to say but I got to tell you this t shirt i'm wearing is my eff t-shirt Electronic Frontier Foundation so you know a part of me is going at but you're right bottom line is if you didn't want it to be seen in public you know you put it on email there's a chance it's gonna get seen why do people think that sexting is something that's not going to get out of the public like what you know don't do it well I mean look at snapchat right yeah you know snapchat is out there specifically for that reason honestly and people assume they can't do

00:20:38 > screenshots yeah I don't ever I never understood that I kind of thought of a neat application someone listening should write this it would be a snapchat to Instagram bridge in the cloud which I which means every time you snap shot something it magically appears on an Instagram feed which would kind of dissolve three billion dollars of valuation almost instantly so there you go now we're talking like computer hackers not biohackers let's go back to us doing okay you also did Iron Man and and are you still a crossfitter you were a crossfitter what's the deal with crossfit i love i love cross lights intensity yeah so I've learned a lot let's let's say that and I've seen the injuries that'll you know this is my issue with crosman i think that the movements and the workouts and the the combination of things are excellent and I think that learning to do functional movements like deadlifts and learning to do things like thrusters or pull ups or but you know I think it's great I think the problem with CrossFit is if you're pushing people to in at level intensity and you only need literally a two-day

00:21:40 > certification to own a CrossFit gym it's not enough you know and after years of doing this and and I'm not like a certified strength and conditioning coach I've just done many sports and I've learned a lot about how the body works and I'm a yoga instructor and you know I I know a lot and I'm an EMT but i'm not an expert by any means there i see the problems you know with what people do in the shoulder injuries and i know so many physical therapist orthopedist who say that like they're in business because of CrossFit so i love crossfit if it's done properly which is the which is what i would say about a lot of times gonna take karate is the same way like any kind of sport if it's done improperly will mess you up absolutely and but I what I've seen honestly is that I think CrossFit tends to be done improperly by a lot of people it I totally believe that I spoke at a CrossFit event get was a water Palooza in Miami a few weeks ago and men there

00:22:41 > are some seriously strong seriously fit people like like you know I don't think I've ever seen women as fit as as some other ones they're just like like seriously they can do a lot more pull ups than at him and it's pretty darn impressive just the level of strength and resilience that comes out but they've obviously been trained right to do the movements right so that they don't get injured right I'd also be very interested in seeing what their hormone levels look like for other parts that are their life it if that's that's a challenge with any intense exercise whether we're talking iron man you know ultra endurance CrossFit or honestly you know playing soccer for two hours a day every day it doesn't really matter if you're if you're not getting enough recovery it's going to show in the hormones and it's going to show in the hormones for women first and it'll show in sperm motility from in first of all things but we don't normally measure that right I have of course you have I should have known first previous creepies test I've ever done yeah so first we talk about poop and then we talk about sperm motility this is like the the TMI podcast of all podcast I'm

00:23:44 > probably titty productivity that's right well I mean I hate to say it you know if if you're not productive enough to have healthy swimmers you're probably not healthy enough to do some other things too like I perform at an optimal level or be efficient right enter it's a great leading indicator kinda great alright so we just talked about overtraining it without really intending to which is which is kind of cool and I think that's a problem in many sports how do you know it in with what you do whether you're over training or under training so learning about recovery was kind of an amazing experience from because when I was training for iron man I had a coach who she was incredible and I mean I I wouldn't know a finish the race without her but since then I think I've learned some more efficient ways of training for an event like that but you know if I if I got sick which happened a lot because my immune system was shot from all that training it was really stressful and upsetting that I had a miss you know four or five days of

00:24:45 > training you know yeah so it was like I the idea that the psychological idea that you have to learn how to recover is huge and just realizing that a lot of times the recovery is more important than the training itself because that's really where you grow and kind of you know improve and absorb it a lot of ways yeah was the big step for me so how do I know that I'm over training at this point honestly I could feel it in my body like I just know when I've done something wrong but fortunately and again from you I've learned about hrv and that was you know again I two years ago probably or more but hrv has been a really amazing indicator for me and I actually really love of the free app I think it's raised on for the iphone called stress check and when I don't have my heart when I don't have my strap I'll use that it just uses your finger and I'll give you a number from 1 to 100 of how you know stress your nervous system is and there were days when I'd wake up feeling fine and it would say that i was at eighty percent you know

00:25:46 > which is bad and that i was like ok so today's not the day to go do the high-intensity tabeta training you know today might be the day to do some yoga do some foam rolling ER or electro stim is one of my favorite ways of recovering honestly because you don't even do anything so you were talking about using heart rate variability as a way to know that your overtrained which is just a remarkable thing to do yeah we saw it was really effective because there were days when I'd wake up and I thought I'd felt I felt good and I thought the flop well but then I pull up the stress check and it would say that i was at eighty percent stress which is which is bad you know i'm like heart rate variability when you want the higher numbers this was bad and then it was like okay well this is the day that I should not be doing the high intensity interval training this is the day to do some yoga or maybe some foam rolling or my preferred method of recovering electro stim so I'm intrigued by what you're doing with electro stim not a lot of people are messing around with that what do you use where how often I'm sure that that's interesting for a lot of people

00:26:47 > listening so I I mean it started as just a thing that like get more blood flow while grilling to certain areas and I so where I had a particular issue was in my right glute which was not firing properly for a long time and I I think it was because I tore my patella tendon am i right knee when I was in college rock climbing and neglected to get surgery and it probably didn't heal properly which led to my hip and let you know all sorts of different things being off so i would just strap you know at the end of the day I just strap the patches on my but basically an and you know let it go for 20 minutes or so and it's really a tens unit just a bit yeah I think like oh this is ten dollar a little battery powered thing yeah well the compacts yeah so that's more than ten bucks that's like to him yes okay yeah it's a little little bit better you know before that I just tried to put a 9-volt battery than it didn't do much so it's hard to yeah yeah a little bit so the complex it was great but then what I found was really amazing was that if I was having a day where I felt like I was a little impinge or something like that

00:27:48 > I could actually use it during the movement and one of my favorite resistance training exercises it is a squat a back squat and you strap those on you know on your right side on your left side you're on your thighs or your glutes and you do a squat you can get a lot deeper and you stay there for a second and you're getting that you know whatever 30 40 50 vibrations per second essentially so you're doing so much more work and training I guess you're training neural pathways really quickly right it depends on the waveform I would I wish that the prototype unit i had was was available because there's some crazy stuff you can do when you mix different frequencies and all and i expect we'll see a massive renaissance of electrical stimulation over the next five years like all the CES devices where people are you know looking at stuff on the wrist you know i was CTO of one of those companies but like compared to what you can do when you're not just watching but you're actively changing electricity it's awesome so i think you're scratching the surface of what you're going to do the next five years oh I know I know

00:28:49 > it's just the beginning and I know that you've talked about some units that you've been testing that it just giving you some in serious musculature it yeah I'm all electricity right now and like I don't know I I'm reasonably see if you can tell on the thing like I've got some guts and biceps computer you know for a guy who really isn't working out at all except every now and then I stand here with the electrodes I did I record a podcast yesterday actually with electrodes on my abs the whole time I didn't even know I was doing it every now then I'm like oh and you know oops all right well I'm still interested in doing less because that's like the art of biohacking like what gives you the best the best change in the least amount of effort because you only have so much effort you're gonna use every day let's talk about these nine fundamentals of doing less that are in your new book because yeah this is something before run out of time that they're really worth paying attention to so what what's with the number nine why not eight why not ten they just how they broke out

00:29:51 > maybe it didn't intend to be nine originally it just happened that way they can I guess believe in the power of threes maybe know it just it started with one thing and another thing another thing and then finally it was like okay well the last part of this is wellness it really wasn't planned and again you know a lot of this just it sort of grew organically from what I fell I needed and what I felt people were benefiting from well so it starts with the 8020 rule which is not my creation but it's not even about that it's really a reminder to constantly be self-tracking that's basically what I do because it's the idea that you know if you track something then you can you can make it better so and it goes beyond you know tracking things with fun little toys like the Fitbit or the the Nike FuelBand which are which are toys and then you can get to things that are much more advanced and you can track everything you know you can track your sleep you can track what you eat you can track the number of emails you send a number of minutes you spend on the phone you can track anything you want and a lot of that can be done so effortlessly now that why not do it because you never know what you're going to find that even

00:30:53 > if you're not looking at you might find something that you can optimize the second one is really about creating the external brain which is clearing your mind and so that you can think focus on the things that you want to do and it also goes into something what I call creating the manual of you which is where you're documenting processes that you go through that can be done by other people or other things which honestly everybody most of the stuff you do can be done by other people or other things and should be you should be able to focus on the five percent of stuff that only you can do and then it goes into customization you know getting things being more efficient by getting things that are really tailored to you and that can be everything from clothes to to foods to to drug since I'm going or you know vitamin supplements in some cases then choose your own work week which is really about knowing the times that you do things better than others and arranging your life around that stop running errands that's a big one which is pretty self-explanatory people should not be running errands there's lots of ways fortunately to do without errands now it is and it doesn't necessarily

00:31:56 > have to cost anything batching which is really about putting together similar tasks so you can gain efficiencies that way organization and my whole philosophy for organization is about setting artificially restrictive limits and then working backwards to find solutions my favorite one is that I will never have more than 10 emails in my inbox ever and that's that took a while but it so what do you create like 40 sub in boxes and then just put nine in each one is a how it works I just keep opening a new email account actually everybody sorry nobody nobody has the address right and then I only deal with the last 10 emails and they move on and then eighth one is fundam and that's a lot of gain about self-tracking really and sort of optimizing things and finding deals automatically and then the ninth one is wellness and wellness I really I cover sleep nutrition fitness and supplements awesome so it's a pretty comprehensive book and yeah it's a lot of it though it's tough to do I tell you I've never

00:32:57 > been a morning person except that one year when i decided i was going to wake up at 5am i taught myself to be a morning person for a while i wake up at five and it got to the point where that was like I'd wake up and meditate one hour of meditation replaced two hours of sleep it was a good trade-off but other than that brief period I don't function as well in the morning as I do later in the day yet I always had a job and you get the vp of sales who wants to have the damn sales meeting at eight a.m. on monday morning to get you up and going or something ridiculous so I mean most people have jobs the vast majority of them with hours and yet choose your own work week whatever like how do you what you recommend people do about that yeah I feel like I have to rename that one because I always pisses people off until i get to explain what it means it's like i mentioned before I know that nine o'clock at night is when I can write creatively you know so of course you know if I found that four o'clock or two o'clock afternoon was the best time for me to work out but I'm at a job then you know maybe I have to either go during my lunch break or I

00:33:58 > have to wait till after work or I have to realize that I can work out in 15 minutes a week like you do you know so there is a way it's kind of that you know there's a will there's a way in in a manner of speaking but it goes way beyond being a morning person or a night person you know when is the best time for me to do phone calls and that is something in some cases that you can change if you're in a 95 kind of job especially when I go in and I work with teams and I try to figure that out but some people don't like making phone calls before noon you know but they're fine in the afternoon for whatever reason and you know some cases you can have that flexibility it really it really depends but eating is another one you know is it great for you to eat the minute you wake up have your you know your Tim Ferriss 30 and 30 you know 30 grams of protein in 30 minutes or someone like me who really does that or if I don't eat until like 11 o'clock or noon I think women overwhelmingly do better on the tim ferriss idea versus just really versus intermittent fasting by itself I've noticed that over and

00:34:59 > over with clients ha ok well maybe that has do something with the fact that women are not actually as well built too fast as men are yeah I think that's what it is that that neither bulletproof coffee or for a lot of them even pure fat isn't enough in the morning they need some protein anyway yeah get you off track there but no no no is that point mmm so okay so so that explains light in other words within the context of your workday do the things when you're mostly fish doing them is what you're sort of saying there exactly yes the best of your ability now on the stop aaron's front I'm feeling really shaggy I just got back from a 15 day road road show in four cities I spoke at multiple conferences in LA the CrossFit south bay opening down there the david wolfe conference and just 20 hundred twenty all this stuff i literally have needed a haircut for three weeks that's an errand i had 40 minutes free in san francisco and i walked in the air to start cutting place and they wanted me to wait for two hours for an opening I'm like damn it so

00:36:02 > I mean there are some errands that are just unavoidable how do you go about scheduling stuff like that because honestly I'm starting to feel way too shaggy well so I mean I haircuts on a bad one I should because you can do other stuff while you're getting a haircut you know I could I could blow through a whole bunch of emails or you know catch up on your podcast if I wanted to while I was getting a haircut so the the only form of multitasking that exists in my opinion is when you combine high focus stuff with low focus stuff you know like brushing your teeth and listening the news or something that you can't drew true multitasking because you're really just rapidly switching between task which is the same problem is making decision fatigue but again sometimes it's about working backwards from a solution so maybe that means that you have to have somebody come to your house and cut your hair well you're doing something else which does exist there's absolutely does it guess it does it strikes me as a highly stressed behavior like I actually don't listen to podcasts I'm getting my hair cut I talked with a person cutting my hair just like that probably has a benefit to it it might it just seems like like i like i like to treat other people the

00:37:03 > way i'd like to be treated so I'm sort of like if I was cutting hair all day long and everyone just like SAT there like doing email I would kind of feel like a bit of a tool so I just feel like you know human interaction has value for me and for the other person so I just want to do it but yeah I could have someone come to my house and do it or maybe I could like hold up a plane on a runway who's that presidential candidate who did that I don't remember but I'll say that every time maybe I'm just bad at this but every time I try to make conversation with a someone cutting my hair it doesn't go very far I find when I go to San Francisco going haircut it's never a problem haha well actually my wife cuts my hair now so that's actually even worse um then you could do email what the heck right well but see so my hair I have very little of it if you're watching this and you know it's a buzz cut she cuts my hair in about four and a half minutes so it's about as efficient as it can be I called my hair with a towel that's awesome and I my hair is too long because I learned in tibet in back in like two thousand four 2003 when i was

00:38:06 > doing about nearing things that I I just benefited by having very little hair because it doesn't stay wet and I'm done in five seconds and you know it is just it's liberating to have little hair and I feel bad for women with long hair even though it looks really nice well Irene alright let's see we're coming up on the end of the show for the amount of time we've got re and there's all sorts of cool stuff we could talk about let's talk about top tasks tuesdays from your book what is a top task tuesday well so that was the thing i came up with a while ago for my blog where i would post because every time i recommend virtual assistants which is one of my top recommend or assistance period well i'm always recommending assistance to people and virtual just so everyone knows it doesn't mean that they're like you know a service with a thousand different assistance that could be but it usually just means that they're not sitting at the desk next to you but that's a great idea I get that yeah yeah so and dedicated assistants are wonderful so

00:39:07 > every time I'd recommend an assistant nine out of ten times the person we like oh I don't even know what I would have them do it's like well I have them do 250 things on average a month so here's a list so every tuesday i would post like five or six of the really interesting tasks that i had outsourced that week and it seemed to be really helpful to people that's that's really cool so you post that I don't know that I even keep a list because Nikki my assistant is just she's so efficient like I just I just have a trust that if I send something over there that she's going to do it or if she doesn't do what she's gonna tell me she didn't do it and like that's the simple thing and for all of you who are starting out your careers whoever you report to like those are the rules don't say yes if you're not going to do it and then just know if you didn't do it it sounds really simple but there's a lot of psychology involved in you know setting clear limits and all that sort of stuff but that is the path to career success and that is what I expect from the people that I work with because if

00:40:09 > they're dropping balls that I'm trusting them not to drop and then they don't know it and I don't know it like like that's a problem because i prioritized it enough that I handed it off to someone because I cared and so pentagram work that's cool re I like it that you're thinking along that too and I also coach I'm a mentor for the the 20 under 20 the peter thiel foundation you know and so these are you know people who are under 20 who are learning how to do this and a lot of them have virtual assistants but they haven't managed them before and it's it's kind of funny that that whole idea of like you know do you have do you have a list you know what they're doing and if you feel like you have to keep a list to track your virtual assistants that's a problem you shouldn't have to track everything they do because they should be tracking it for you absolutely and delegation is a skill by the way that needs to be fostered so if only they would teach that like in high school imagine how useful high school could be mmhmm yeah that would be amazing well alright I'm really looking forward to people getting a chance to read your new book less

00:41:10 > doing more living and we are at the end of the show which means the one question that i always prefer one that i'm sure you've heard before because i know you'll listen to the podcast what are your top three recommendations for people who want to be more you know be more high performance people want to just kick more ass yeah absolutely you know what I knew the question was coming I didn't prepare for it so before the first one honestly is get a virtual system because it's a learning experience for you no matter what you do and and you know it's not necessarily ideal but you can get a system for twenty-five dollars a month at this point to try out and try try it out because it is an educational process for you in terms of how to effectively delegate the things in your life and it's it's an experience and it's something that everyone needs to get better at because whether you're giving it to a person or a machine you have to figure out how to manage your capacity effectively and a lot of that means getting some of it out of your play or off your plate the second one is eat fat because I think that fat is a

00:42:13 > wonderful fuel source it's a wonderful therapeutic thing fat is satiating it makes you feel good it makes you look good and I think that it can help fight a lot of the inflammation that causes any number of problems you can think of in modern society not all of them of course but a lot of them and I think that eating more fat is one of the greatest things that I've ever done for my health my productivity a my well-being don't tell everyone there's going to be a shortage of grass-fed butter oh wait yeah well yes yeah sorry about that guys and then the third one is about this is a new one for me actually is about relationships I recently figured this out somehow but I found relationships to be somewhat stressful in a lot of ways because I feel like I've over rationalized things in my life and I've had a not weird but I just I feel like my connection with emotions it's like off sometimes so basically what I realized is that when you're dealing with someone and I'm referring to intimate relationships for the most part but you're looking for connection and if you look at it that

00:43:14 > everything you do or say particularly what you say can either strengthen your connection or weaken your connection it's a very good way to look at it you know and if you're having a fight that doesn't mean that you're disconnecting in fact it's probably connecting you even more because if someone's venting at you and you're there punching bag you're the only person that can provide that in a lot of situations and that's a really amazingly intimate wonderful thing and for years I never looked at it that way I always looked at it as a negative thing and I always tried to find the solution and I always look for the blame and it was something that was really really holding me back so I want to be more connected I want to be more connected to my kids I want to be more connected to my wife to my friends it's it's about it's about connection and so you can really think about those in that manner is this connecting us more or is it disconnecting us that's awesome no one said that in almost 100 podcasts thank you I really it's been it's been an interesting discovery for me okay

00:44:15 > admit it all right you had your virtual assistant prepare response for you right absolutely not I promise actually when it comes to my wife I we have a rule or she has a role I'm not allowed to outsource anything so oh that that's that's a tough rule but I was speaking about sourcing the ballsiest move I've ever seen around that was when Tim Ferriss outsource to chapter four hour work week to his virtual assistant that was the coolest thing I've ever seen yes yes oh good tell all right no with that I just lost track was that too or was that three that was three wasn't it yeah that was right okay yeah there we go the third one was was like long and interesting so I'm like what ones all right thanks man I appreciate you coming on the podcast appreciate your work and helping people to focus on efficiency and prioritization and spending less time spinning the wheels and more time doing whatever it is they're here to do that's that's all amazingly cool stuff so have a have an awesome day and everyone what you're listening to this now please do me the

00:45:17 > favor of going out there and clicking on iTunes and saying that you like this podcast and that other people might want to like it too and check out the new stuff we've got up on the bulletproof executive blog brand new design it's taken months it's way better it looks better it's better functioning and you can find stuff easier Dave thank you so much has been a real privilege always as thanks Ari have an awesome day so many companies spend so much time in meetings and there are 60 to 90 minutes long and you know whatever you name the meeting but what's happening is those people are going into those meetings and they're not intentional about what the meetings about they're not intentional about how they're showing up and if you can start to get people more intentional about how they're showing up in a meeting and what they want to get out of it you cut a 90 minute meeting down to 30 minutes fluorescent lighting the brightness of the lighting has increased by over two hundred percent since World War two we used to have blackboards then we went to green boards now we have white boards we

have interactive whiteboards we have high glare high gloss everything is higher contrast everything is brighter and everything then becomes much more stressful leading to difficulties and physical symptoms for those people that we can help